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  • #61
    Originally posted by Snapcase
    Serenity is possibly the quality I despise most in music.

    lots of classical pieces are far from serene - could actually put to shame the most elaborate rock themes there are in their intensity

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    • #62
      Originally posted by monolith94
      Ok.... A drone, a few buzzing noises. Actually sounds quite like radiohead, only different. More subtle.
      I hate Radiohead too.

      Guitar comes in. Fairly standard. First on the left channel, and then on the right. Still can't see what you hate.


      Ah! There's the problem right there. (a) Fairly standard guitar- all good music is original and interesting. Pink Floyd is so... Formulaic. Pompous, but formulaeic. (b) Awful production. There is a reason the greatest producer in history, Phil Spector, worked purely in Mono- Stereo practically invites frivolous pretentious "artiness".

      Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. The lyrics: perhaps they're not what you like? Well, I can't understand that either. You've been in the pipeline filling oyur time... The lyrics coupled with the style of singing really bemoan the slippage into the corporate structure, the proverbial selling out. How is that different from any other song that bemoands "selling out"?


      It was mainstream youth culture opinion at the time. The real "rebels" of that age were people like Jonathan Richman who embraced modern society...
      Världsstad - Dom lokala genrenas vän
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      • #63
        Originally posted by paiktis22
        lots of classical pieces are far from serene - could actually put to shame the most elaborate rock themes there are in their intensity
        Elaboration is another factor I hate in music. All the best and most challenging music is achingly simple.
        Världsstad - Dom lokala genrenas vän
        Mick102, 102,3 Umeå, Måndagar 20-21

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        • #64
          Why does it make a difference what is was at the time? Can't you just listen to the damn notes, or is the sociological context absolutely crucial?
          yada

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Snapcase


            Elaboration is another factor I hate in music. All the best and most challenging music is achingly simple.

            For me it depends on the mood. And I also find it repetitive after a while (if not in the right mood).

            Although there can be genious in 3 chords sure

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            • #66
              I think attitude influences music conciously and subconciously. The damn notes are there because someone had the desire to place them there for some reason, and one of the wonders of music is that the attitude of the writer at the time is often acutely reflected in the music itself.
              Världsstad - Dom lokala genrenas vän
              Mick102, 102,3 Umeå, Måndagar 20-21

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              • #67
                I don't want to denigrate simplicity either - right now I'm listening to a Sun Records compilation, and really rather liking it.

                But I wouldn't say music has to be simple. And I would say a Beethoven slow movement goes to places that Carl Perkins (or whoever - just using that example cos he's on right now...) would be utterly incapable of exploring. But Beethoven would bomb at Glastonbury...
                yada

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                • #68
                  "all good music is original and interesting"

                  So basically I'm gathering that you like simple music that is original and interesting. Let me turn you on, then, to one of my absolute favorites... Phillip Glass. His cd "The Pohotographer" being his pinnacle work.
                  "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                  Drake Tungsten
                  "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                  Albert Speer

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                  • #69
                    It is oh so fitting... I am sitting here listening to Radiohead's cover of "Wish You Were Here".
                    "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                    Drake Tungsten
                    "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                    Albert Speer

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                    • #70
                      Make sure you post this again in another 200 years LM-

                      I guarantee someone will still be listening to Bach's Greatest Hits.

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                      • #71
                        I can't believe that so many people here listen to classical music. It "sniff" makes me want to cry. You are all so great "sniff" my loyal subjects.... "sniff" my loyal subjects.

                        I wouldn't call Wagner exactly placid.
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #72
                          Re: Classical music is for snobs.

                          Originally posted by Loud Medicine
                          I don't understand it: Why is anybody listening to stuff thats 200 years old, or older? I mean it has nothing to do with the world of today, it has been heard over and over.

                          Baroque music - you can't listen to it longer than 5 minutes, after that you fall asleep (or do the dishes or something like that)

                          Classical music - Tatatataaaaa. Heard a billion zillion times. Like "Yesterday"

                          Romantic music. Sounds like a generic Hollywood soundtrack. Maybe it was genuine 150 years ago, but today?

                          Take Bach's "Art of the Fugue" for example. It's the same stuff over and over, I bet the people who say it's one of their favourite works can't tell which fugue is which.

                          So I guess it's all for the snobs to show their impressive education.



                          SNOB.. HA..HA HA I laugh at you. I am a 5 year concert Violist. I grew up on this stuff. I love the music..the melodies that float about your brain when you close your eyes and absorb it in..the different instruments that are used for different moods. Classical music is beautiful and very meaningful. I am as far as you can get from being a snob..and yet I love this kind of music..it realeases my tensions and puts me at ease.... And that's just my opinion!!
                          The only reason I was gone for so long was because I hate you people!!!

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                          • #73
                            Classical music is for snobs.


                            Just like rock music is for angry teenagers right? There's nothing snobby about classical music itself. The lifestyles of some of the people that like it, well that might be a different story.

                            Listening to only one type of music is boring. Expand your horizons and grow up a bit. When you're older, you might even like classical. I don't listen to it much, but I like it once and awhile in traffic. Keeps the head level. Much more than some angry 20 year old screaming about killing angels or some **** like that.
                            I see the world through bloodshot eyes
                            Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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                            • #74
                              Is Placido Domingo placid?
                              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                              We've got both kinds

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                              • #75
                                Snapcase, please explain exactly how The White Stripes are dangerous, rebellious and subversive.

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