Thanks to our allies - updated

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Case
In fairness, the Australian governments of the day did beg the US for permission to send Australians to Vietnam and the Gulf,

They did?

[faded glory]

British generals are famed for fighting to the last Australian

heh, and canadians!

1/3 of all UK loses, were actually ANZAC loses...(Was that it?).

In africa, they always had Hindu's as Sappers...hehe..

Then they used all those Canadians at Dieppe..what basterds. They knew it would fail...nice "Probe" On churchhill's part. Cost 20,000 Canadian casualties.....

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Case
Why, America will save us when Indonesia invades

No, America will not save you. Indonesia will invade peacefully, in a diffusional manner. One day you'll wake up and find out that the Indonesians are the majority. Then a referendum will be held, and Australia will democratically be annexed to Indonesia.

[Asher]

Originally posted by faded glory
heh, and canadians!

1/3 of all UK loses, were actually ANZAC loses...(Was that it?).

In africa, they always had Hindu's as Sappers...hehe..

Then they used all those Canadians at Dieppe..what basterds. They knew it would fail...nice "Probe" On churchhill's part. Cost 20,000 Canadian casualties.....

Don't forget Vimy Ridge.

All the other nations were too inept to take it.

Leave it to the canucks...

[faded glory]

Yup...Canadians were a brave, forgotten bunch in WW2.....Fighting for a continent they could of cared to ****s about. Of course, when there is the threat of treason for not carrying out ordes...hehe. I guess you have to take that ridge.

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Originally posted by Felch X
Also note that even Napoleon wasn't really French. Corsica had only been conquered for a short time before Napoleon was born there.

Also, I don't think anybody is really critizing the French for bravery. Their chief problem historically has been an insistence on using ancient and obselete tactics. Thus, battles such as Agincourt and Dien Bien Phu predominate in the public perception of French ineptitude.

So in short, France's reputation is mostly because of uninventive leadership.

Right, I'm agree with that. My point of view about militar history of my country :
Napoleon had a great army because he had some good generals (as had Hitler some skilled and young generals). Old aristocratic militar leaders were "fired" or killed.

After Napoleon, high rank militars was again an aristocratic society. And they gain their rank not because of their militar skill, but because their relatives were high rank militars. It is still the case. So they prefere to use old stragegy because they don't know how use their new weapons.

We need a new revolution in France and we need to cut some heads.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Of course you forgot to thank Russia.

*sigh*

Russia's principle contributions have been there "helping" US get bases in central asia (IE permitting it) and providing diplomatic support and weapons to Northern alliance. Russia is a "player" in Afganistan, as are India, Iran, Pakistan, and Uzbekistan. While all have cooperated with the US, they have all pursued their own interests in Afghan. i

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Of course you forgot to thank Russia.

*sigh*

Russia's principle contributions have been there "helping" US get bases in central asia (IE permitting it) and providing diplomatic support and weapons to Northern alliance. Russia is a "player" in Afganistan, as are India, Iran, Pakistan, and Uzbekistan. While all have cooperated with the US, they have all pursued their own interests in Afghan. i meant the thread to relate more to those nations which have explicitly allied themselves to the US campaign.

LOTM

[lord of the mark]

oh gosh, we're debating French military history (BTW, any of you guys aware of a place called Verdun?) and Commonwealth contibutions in WW1 and 2, and how ungrateful the brits are for the Canadians and Aussies, and how ungrateful the Yanks are for the Aussies in Vietnam. I now declare this thread officially hijacked and will start a new one.

LOTM

[KrazyHorse]

Suburb in the soutwest of Montreal? My father grew up there.

Or did you mean the militarily pointless objective the French held onto despite all logic?