The Apolyton Island

[Bereta_Eder]

I expect free lunch you know. Being the Island crazed hermit and all.

It's tradition you have to feed the crazy hermit or you risk evoking the wrath of the Gods of the Island.

[orange]

Re: Re: The Apolyton Island

Originally posted by Ming


Who needs a stinking GOVERNMENT to survive when there are abundant resourses...
*don't people even bother reading the first post*

What about to protect the weak from the strong? After all, government's aren't simply about economic distribution. Though I agree that this aspect of the scenario does make it easier to form a commune.

[Goingonit]

Originally posted by orange


Once again, I see it the other way around. Starting as a commune with a simple organization of who will work on what (food gathering, shelter building, hunting, etc.) and capitalism and factional differences would/could develop slowly or abruptly based on how we continued to organize ourselves.

But, before anyone did anything, it would have been libertarian. Then within hours it would have turned Commie.

[orange]

Originally posted by Goingonit
But, before anyone did anything, it would have been libertarian. Then within hours it would have turned Commie.

Ok, yes I see what you're saying. However, in regard to time, 'starting off' communist to me is within the first few days/weeks. After all, we're all going to be here for a very, very long time For the first few hours/days it would be anarchy...but a tame one due to the circumstances.

[chequita guevara]

Re: Re: The Apolyton Island

Originally posted by Ming
Who needs a stinking GOVERNMENT to survive when there are abundant resourses...
*don't people even bother reading the first post*

Just because resources are abundant doesn't mean they are easily obtainable. Our waters could be overflowing with fish, but without the means to get them, they may as well not exist. We'd also need to establish certain rules, like a common area for waste, so we don't end up leaving garbage and excrement everywhere and reducing the health of everyone.

[KrazyHorse]

That's not Libertarianism; that's anarchism.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by paiktis22
I expect free lunch you know. Being the Island crazed hermit and all.

There's no such thing as a free lunch. Unless we are eating barbecued Paiktis

[orange]

for example Ming - what would we do if someone tried to gain a monopoly on force? IE: A group was secretly planning to create a large amount of weapons like sharpened sticks, slingshots, etc. to run the island as they saw fit. What would be the precedure to stop this without government? If you would say "every man for himself" (meaning, everyone should build their own weapons and form their own mutual protection pacts) than the system will collapse and become groups of tribes who fear each other and can't accomplish much.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by paiktis22
I expect free lunch you know.

He who does not work, neither shall he eat.

[Ming]

Originally posted by orange
for example Ming - what would we do if someone tried to gain a monopoly on force? IE: A group was secretly planning to create a large amount of weapons like sharpened sticks, slingshots, etc. to run the island as they saw fit.

Sounds like a government to me... as I said, we don't need no stinking government.

[Goingonit]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
He who does not work, neither shall he eat.

That's not very Communist. "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and all that. And we all know that Patkis has no abilities .

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


There's no such thing as a free lunch. Unless we are eating barbecued Paiktis

woe to you oh foolish settlers if you allow yourselves to be dragged to the abysmal chasm of morality that canibalism constitutes. Not only shalt the wrath of the Gods of the Island be dire but you'll need a soda as well and none will be forthcoming.

[Immortal Wombat]

He who does not work, neither shall he eat.

But he does work: he tells amusing stories and lets children laugh at his hairyness and Greekness...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Goingonit
That's not very Communist. "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and all that. And we all know that Patkis has no abilities .

This is survival comunism, not advanced communism. Two different types of societies.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
But he does work: he tells amusing stories and lets children laugh at his hairyness and Greekness...

What children? All the women will have died from exhuastion long before there are any children.