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  • #31
    Kyle, your analysis is hilarious

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Goingonit
      If you give money to 3rd-world countries due to terrorism, they (correctly) will assume that terrorism leads to money, and thus support more terrorism so the US will give them more foreign aid.
      Speaking of simplistic

      What does "you give money to 3rd world countries due to terrorism" mean anyway?

      It's not the US hasn't supported terrorism in the past. The Contras, for example.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by paiktis22
        Kyle, your analysis is hilarious
        Well he is correct on at least one point. The French did withdraw from the NATO command structure becuase they found that the constraints it put on thier decision-making, sovereignty and freedom of (in)action to be unacceptable.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #34
          Originally posted by paiktis22
          Kyle, your analysis is hilarious


          Thanks, I try to please.
          "Let us kill the English! Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!"

          ~Lisa as Jeanne d'Arc

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          • #35
            Chris Matthews to Belgian ambassador: Isnt the Reason you dont want to fight is because your really a bunch of yellow bellied cowards? Isnt it? After all you guys didnt have the cajones to stand up to hitler, Stalin, or Milosevic. This is no different.

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            • #36
              Did he really say that, faded?

              Originally posted by faded glory
              Chris Matthews to Belgian ambassador: Isnt the Reason you dont want to fight is because your really a bunch of yellow bellied cowards? Isnt it? After all you guys didnt have the cajones to stand up to hitler, Stalin, or Milosevic. This is no different.
              I really have to start watching Hardball more often.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #37
                Well he is correct on at least one point. The French did withdraw from the NATO command structure becuase they found that the constraints it put on thier decision-making, sovereignty and freedom of (in)action to be unacceptable.
                That was many, many years ago. Countries and governements change over time, and France is a prime example of this.

                Chris Matthews to Belgian ambassador: Isnt the Reason you dont want to fight is because your really a bunch of yellow bellied cowards? Isnt it? After all you guys didnt have the cajones to stand up to hitler, Stalin, or Milosevic. This is no different.


                Europe didn't stand up to Hitler? Holland fought, as did France, Belgium, Britain, etc. All against Hitler. And Stalin? Did the US ever fight against Stalin? Nope, cause they were afraid of him as well. And Milosevic wasn't a threath to the EU, let alone Belgium.

                Brush up on your history please.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Saint Marcus




                    Europe didn't stand up to Hitler? Holland fought, as did France, Belgium, Britain, etc. All against Hitler. And Stalin? Did the US ever fight against Stalin? Nope, cause they were afraid of him as well. And Milosevic wasn't a threath to the EU, let alone Belgium.

                    Brush up on your history please.

                    Why kind of revionist history books are you reading?

                    Belgium:Keeping with tradition, folded in the first week. France also, aww hell..you know the drill. Only england stood up to the nazi's. The rest were a bunch of sorry ass turncoats.


                    And Stalin? Did the US ever fight against Stalin?
                    Berlin Airlift? Korea? No my friend.....you need to brush up on your history


                    And Milosevic wasn't a threath to the EU, let alone Belgium.
                    Oh so its ok to commit genocide, as long as its not a threat to the EU? And you, who claims to hold the moral highground?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                      And Milosevic wasn't a threath to the EU, let alone Belgium.
                      I thought that the entire point of this thread was that countries should not have self-serving policies?

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                      • #41
                        Chris Matthews to Belgian ambassador: Isnt the Reason you dont want to fight is because your really a bunch of yellow bellied cowards? Isnt it? After all you guys didnt have the cajones to stand up to hitler, Stalin, or Milosevic. This is no different.

                        Many Belgians died in WWII from fighting in the army against Hitler, organizing resitance against Hitler, helping jews escape.

                        In Belgium was everyone forced 1 year of conscription during the cold war to help protect West-Germany against possible soviet invasion by Stalin.

                        Belgian planes and pilots where used againsts Milosevic. Belgium gave also a lot of help towards teh Kosovarian people.

                        Off course didn't we do that alone but togetter with the NATO and our european friends. Or should the little army of Belgium beat Stalin, Hitler,Milosevic alone?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by faded glory



                          Why kind of revionist history books are you reading?

                          Belgium:Keeping with tradition, folded in the first week. France also, aww hell..you know the drill. Only england stood up to the nazi's. The rest were a bunch of sorry ass turncoats.
                          They folded under military pressure that was far in excess of what they had to stand up to it. The Belgians, Dutch and French, along with all the other countries that were conquered by the Nazis, were not yellow cowards that wouldn't dare fight the Nazis, quite the opposite. The fact that they fought Germany despite the overwhelming advantage the Nazis had over them in terms of manpower, firepower, etc., would indicate just the opposite.
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                          • #43
                            overwhelming? Allies had 3,000,000 men. And like 1000 more tanks. It was just German strategy.



                            Hey Chris Matthew is right tho. You guys never want to bloody your noses. Yes you want the world to listen to you.


                            I was waiting for Matthews to bust out and say

                            *chickens, Bawk, Bawk, Bawk*

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                            • #44
                              The cowardice that is spoken of does not have anything to do with the armies reaction to the Germans assault (imo): frankly, there is no bravery or cowardice when there is no choice in the matter. No, imho the cowardice lies in the inaction by Europe's greatest countries in the 7-odd years prior to 1-9-39.

                              Which is the same course of action that is being urged upon by the US by our EU "allies." Appeasement.... do nothing and it will go away... stop asserting yourself - I mean, we didn't when Germany occupied the Rhine and everything eventually turned out OK.



                              As I would never accept parenting advice from my maternal grandmother, the US should never accept diplomatic and military advice from the French.

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                              • #45
                                faded important question: did that guy Chris something really say these things to the belgian ambassador?

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