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    From two CNN articles:


    A senior French government minister has attacked the U.S. approach to fighting terrorism as "simplistic."

    Foreign Minister Hubert Vedrine told France Inter radio on Wednesday: "We are friends of the United States, we are friends of that people and we will remain so. But we are threatened today by a new simplism which consists in reducing everything to the war on terrorism. That is their approach, but we cannot accept that idea. You have got to tackle the root causes, the situations, poverty, injustice."

    Vedrine said the U.S. was showing signs of acting "unilaterally, without consulting others, taking decisions based on its own view of the world and its own interests ... refusing any multilateral negotiation that could limit their decision-making, sovereignty and freedom of action."

    Vedrine's criticism is the latest indictation of unease among some of America's European allies over the direction of the post-Afghanistan anti-terror campaign.

    Although France was among those European countries that backed the U.S.-led campaign against terrorism following the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington, it has joined Germany and Britain in expressing concerns.

    Vedrine said the rhetoric coming out of Washington was confirmation that the Republican administration approached foreign policy unilaterally.

    Vedrine also criticised U.S. support for Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians.

    He said that Europeans opposed it and that the American vision of globalisation was not one France shared.

    "Europeans are unanimous in not supporting the Middle East policy of the White House," Vedrine said.

    "We think it is a mistake blindly to accept the policy of pure repression conducted by Ariel Sharon ... we are saying this and we are making a number of other proposals."

    Vedrine is not the only European politician to criticise Bush's speech.

    Britain's Foreign Secretary Jack Straw described it as domestic electioneering.

    "I thought the State of the Union speech was best understood by the fact that there are mid-term congressional elections coming up in November," Straw said.

    At the annual security conference in Munich at the weekend, Ludger Volmer, a state secretary at the German foreign ministry, said: "The terror argument cannot be used to settle old scores."

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    France has again warned Washington of the dangers of unilateralism in its approach to the war on terrorism.

    French Prime Minister Lionel Jospin, speaking at a European parliamentarians' conference on money laundering on Friday, spoke two days after his Foreign Minister Hubert Vedrine criticised what he called U.S. President George W. Bush's simplistic approach to world politics.

    "We hope the United States does not give in to the strong temptation of unilateralism," Jospin said.

    France has strongly backed the campaign against terrorism since the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

    "But this does not mean that we must not reflect lucidly on the lessons we have learned from September 11," Jospin said.

    "We cannot reduce the problems of the world to the single dimension of the struggle against terrorism, despite its pressing importance, nor rely on the predominance of military means," he added.

    Jospin also said international cooperation was needed to tackle terrorism.

    "Our conception of the world aims to create a more balanced international community ... based on a multilateral approach," he said.

    "Cooperation means members of the international community can tackle together the roots of problems, since none of us can hope to resolve them alone."

    The criticism from Paris is the latest indictation of unease among some of America's European allies over the direction of the post-Afghanistan anti-terror campaign.

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    CNN quickvote poll:

    Q: Is U.S. foreign policy too simplistic?
    A: Yes: 61%, 24825 votes; No 39%, 16175 votes
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    • #3
      OMG, the FRENCH are angry at us!?!?! Woe to us! Whatever shall we do to live down such an indignity?
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #4
        Thanks for addressing the point of the criticism. It's not just you that feels this way, but almost the entire US governement (some exceptions, thank God). Perfect example.
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        • #5
          Well, I didn't want to get wordy. It is really tough typing when you have a sleeping infant in your arms, after all.

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          • #6
            OMG, the FRENCH are angry at us!?!?! Woe to us! Whatever shall we do to live down such an indignity?
            It's not "just" the french. They are just the most vocal. As the articles say, it's just "the latest indictation of unease among some of America's European allies over the direction of the post-Afghanistan anti-terror campaign.". Other countries are expressing the same concerns (Britain, Germany, Italy even)
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            • #7
              Yay! Woo! Go Europe!

              Foreign Minister Hubert Vedrine told France Inter radio on Wednesday: "We are friends of the United States, we are friends of that people and we will remain so. But we are threatened today by a new simplism which consists in reducing everything to the war on terrorism. That is their approach, but we cannot accept that idea. You have got to tackle the root causes, the situations, poverty, injustice."

              Vedrine said the U.S. was showing signs of acting "unilaterally, without consulting others, taking decisions based on its own view of the world and its own interests ... refusing any multilateral negotiation that could limit their decision-making, sovereignty and freedom of action."
              *applauds*
              "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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              • #8
                Ah, we all know the only ones in EU that hate US are hippie idiot girls or moron anarchists.
                Or, if someone criticizes US, he must be a hippie idiot or moron anarchist.

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                • #9
                  ... taking decisions based on its own view of the world and its own interests ... refusing any multilateral negotiation that could limit their decision-making, sovereignty and freedom of action."

                  I fail to see anything wrong with this.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    *applauds*
                    Indeed, that part I liked best as well.

                    Some of our newspapers had frontpage headlines stating: "France calls American "simplism" a threath to the world"

                    And Vedrine is damn right!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tuomerehu
                      Or, if someone criticizes US, he must be a hippie idiot or moron anarchist.
                      Or both.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #12
                        Ah, we all know the only ones in EU that hate US are hippie idiot girls or moron anarchists.
                        Anarchists in a governement?

                        I fail to see anything wrong with this.
                        So you fail to see how the concepts of multi-lateralism and international cooperation can benefit the world as a whole?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                          So you fail to see how the concepts of multi-lateralism and international cooperation can benefit the world as a whole?
                          I'm not interested in benefiting the world as a whole. I'm interested in seeing that the US benefits itself primarially. If the two goals can be done at the sametime though, so much the better.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            I'm not interested in benefiting the world as a whole. I'm interested in seeing that the US benefits itself primarially.
                            Rather sick view. So you think a select group of 270 million people are more important than 6 billion others?

                            Anyway, by your statement you are saying that Europe's criticism of US policies is deserved? That what Vedrine says is the truth?
                            Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              I'm not interested in benefiting the world as a whole. I'm interested in seeing that the US benefits itself primarially. If the two goals can be done at the sametime though, so much the better.
                              No, it´s quite clear that the US don´t care about anyone but themselves, and that will eventually come back to bite the US in the ass, mark my words.
                              I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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