Northern European's latent racism

[axi]

Ugly topic

All this bouncing has harmed you in the head, paiktis22...

In fact all people are somewhat racist. Nothern Europeans are racist, Greeks are racist, Chinese are racist, Africans are racist. Even gypsies, who are shunned by every sedentary nation in the old world, they are racist too.

If there's to be guilt about it (and there has to be guilt if there is discrimination, exploitation or crime involved) then if falls on everyone's back. Still, people are guilty about the things they say and do themselves and not about what their nation or race does.

So please, get out of your complex and do something about the victims of racism near you. Go to the nearest immigrant concentration camp and protest.

[Bereta_Eder]

Bounce, bounce, come on bounce

of course it's an ugly topic. it is a taboo topic too.
so what if it's ugly? that means it hurts. is there a law that says we must shy away from such topics?

Half of my life I've lived in northern europe and while there was no latent racism towards me I could clearly see it against vast groups of people. I was young and didn't understand much but when I went there again as a grown up I could see it even more clearly.

Greeks are racist too but we have a different approach. we are not the same. on the racist topic on a personal level (not on a state-authorities level) we are salvaged from racism.

in northern europe it is ingraned in their mentality, it's plain to see.

almost every responce in this thread was to throw stones in order to hide the hands.
here's a fine example my MacTbone

Alright, if people want to blanket North Europeans as racist, then we should follow through. Greeks are hairy and smelly. Arabs are Muslim and fundamentalist. Americans all carry guns.

not very conveincing. most of the answers followed the same motive.

tough subjects, as this ugly thread, should be brought forward for gnosis kai symorfosis


there is a latent racism that dwelves on a superiority complex and skin color. I think it's silly not to recognise it.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by orange
By you making broud generalizations about "Northern Europeans" aren't you really being racist yourself

That's not fair, judge people as who they are and not by their race religion color sex nationality etc.

That's true orange. There is a fine line to walk here.
But we can't just close our eyes to reality and not touch subjects because we "fear" we could be labeled as "racists" or whatever.

It's better to say things as they are without encancerating ourselves to politically correct rules. that actually produce more harm than good since they create taboo -untouchable subjetcs and in fact let these trends develop freely and flourish.

[chequita guevara]

latent?

I thought they were pretty open about it.

[kolpo]

[SIZE=1] not very conveincing. most of the answers followed the same motive.

tough subjects, as this ugly thread, should be brought forward for gnosis kai symorfosis


there is a latent racism that dwelves on a superiority complex and skin color. I think it's silly not to recognise it.

You where saying it like that was only or more in northern europe then the rest of teh world, so showing that it also happens in other regions proofs you wrong. Because it shows the truth that it is over the whole world and not just northern europe.

With the right retoric can you proof all regions as being very racistic.

In Servia do you feel as German also a very big latent racism towards you, it's not because it is not towards greeks taht it doesn't exists.

I don't deny that tehre is some latent racism in europe, but I deny that it is more then the rest of the world.

[Immortal Wombat]

I like Greeks.

Especially the ones behind the bar in Aya Napa.

[Lars-E]

Loud Music, perhaps you could enlighten us with your sharp intellect and intelligence?

[Goingonit]

Originally posted by kolpo
Also couldn't Musolini be considered one of the biggest racists ever? Sending Jews to the German concentration camps looks me rather racistic.

Notice that there seemed to be a discrepancy between the number of Italian Jews who were killed and the number in Italy before the war. Italy, through their societal apathy, saved significant numbers of Jews although the Government co-operated with the Germans.

The very fact that you call him racist by comparing him to norther Europe destroys your argument. Unless this was intentional irony.

[Loud Medicine]

No.

[kolpo]

Originally posted by Goingonit


Notice that there seemed to be a discrepancy between the number of Italian Jews who were killed and the number in Italy before the war. Italy, through their societal apathy, saved significant numbers of Jews although the Government co-operated with the Germans.

The very fact that you call him racist by comparing him to norther Europe destroys your argument. Unless this was intentional irony.

I'm was not saying that the south is more racist the the north or any similar racist statement.

But it was with a racistic agaenda that musolini got elected and his cooperation with Hitler slowed down the allied victory and was by that responisble for many more jews then those deported to Germany from there.
Maybe was Germany worser the Italy but it was not better then nortern Europe as a whole(about what we are talking here). Who includes the Brits, without them would all jews be killed in europe(except the few who had enough money to flee). In Nortern europe where there also various groups who tried to save jews who where unlike Italy liked by the majority of the population

I'm not saying here that Italy was worser, just equally worse. Saying that one regions is more racist then others is simply nonsese. I can use the same retoric that is now used against nortern Europe say that the Balkan nations/Rwanda/Lebanon/Israël/USA are latent racists, it's just nonsense.

[Bereta_Eder]

kolpo that's because you are unable to tell the difference.

Mousolini's Italy was fascist not rascist. BIG difference with northern european racism. There cannot exist a racism in Italy where half the population is white and half darkskinned.


South europe is not racist the way the north is. that's a northern white disease.



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latent?

I thought they were pretty open about it.

Most of the responces here prove it. Racist and proud of it.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by kolpo
I don't deny that tehre is some latent racism in europe, but I deny that it is more then the rest of the world.

you should have said northern europe. not europe.

there is a difference. If someone goes to Afganistan or Turkey or Greece or Italy he will not be regarded with latent racism unless he comes from a hostile country.

if someone goes to northern europe then by default he will be regarded with racism even though there is no national/ethnic reason to do so.


that's latent racism ingraned deep down the northern european mentality.
and that's why northern europe is more racist than anyone else.

and I beleive that a part from practices northern european countries were perfectly capable of nucturing a nazist state like germany did. because they are the same. germany just got lucky. it is the same everywhere else in northern europe.

and this disease can be seen today as strong as ever. white skin is all that matters in the end of the day. and the northern european racist subconcious "pride" that comes from it and is expressed even if they want it or not. it's almost tribal. not so civilized I'd say.

[August Borms]

According to a study the Greek youth is the most xenophobic of all EU countries

[Bereta_Eder]

true. 26% want all immigrants to "go back from where they came from"

that percentage in France is just 6%.

that's because most of the immigrants are albanians who are associated with KLA and its intention to assault Greece after Fyrom and also because of their part in Serbia. so there is a reason and you can't classify it under racism.

we are talking about northern european racism which is genuine since there shouldn't be any reason for it to exist. and we are not talking about immigrants but about being northern and being white. only few people had the courage to acknowledge that this latent racist disease exist.
most, like you, just throw stones to cover your hands.

[lightblue]

I think it is an inherent part of groups of people to feel superior to other groups of people. The Dutch feel (are? ) superior to the Belgians, the English feel superior to the French etc. Similarly I bet the Greeks feel superior to the Albanians, or the Turks to the Greeks. The Americans feel superior to everyone else.

I think it is part of what bonds a society together. I am not saying it is good, I am not saying it is clever, but it probably part of our makeup.

Like George Bernard Shaw said: "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it".