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  • Originally posted by Jon Miller
    it seems EVC is in a cult

    lets all hope he gts out

    Jon Miller
    There is a perfectly legitimate church near where I live. Despite calling themselves 'Christians,' they use and promote cult tactics in order to gain new members, which of course is crucial to salvation . They try to lure in popular kids in high schools. Athletic and class president types. The most impressionable. Then they can use these kids' charisma to lure in others. They will be your best friends for no apparent reason. They will invite you into a group where you will beleive that you are liked, all the while trying to fill your head with their 'ideas' about Christianity. They tell you to abandon your old friends (if you can't convert them, to destroy anything secular like music, books, and movies. Basically, isolate yourself from everything but them. Eventually, you will become dependent on them, having lost everything else. At this point, you will return to where ever you were socially just before you joined them only within their group. Nerds will be treated like nerds. Jocks like jocks. Popular kids will rule with even more power than they had in high school. I knew one kid, who fell into deep depression after his 'friends' felt that he was a little too different for them.

    I used to attend this church with my sister. Though I never considered myself one of their members. They were friendly, but hostile to any of my beliefs outside of their own. They claimed that they were nondemoninational, but that was only a ruse to lure away members from other churches. They would use music to confuse their younger members. By playing very loudly, the fools actually believed that the vibrations they felt in their bodies was the spirit of God. The false euphoria was the Holy Spirit, in their younger impressionable minds. I stayed out of morbid curiousity. I never said that I wasn't evil , I enjoyed watching them be manipulated. Throwing their lives away, so that I could surpass them easily in real life. I felt little sympathy for them because they had become such mindless, nonhuman fools. You can always spot an American 'Christian' by looked at their glazed eyes. Everyone is the same. Eventually, I grew tired of them, and they grew less receptive to me. They wouldn't even let me into their church one time. That last I heard, their ex-murder preacher is giving sermons on the evils of Islam and how they should be converted to Christianity.

    As for EVC, I believe that this girl is using him. It is really an old tactic. He is calling her his girlfriend, even though thy just met and were perfect strangers before that. I fear that he will get hurt beyond what he can handle with his past problems. These places don't care about people, life, or love. They only want money and power. Of course, the scariest ones are the ones who don't. The ones who are led by people who actually believe what they are saying.

    In general, I don't trust any religion. 9/11 has only pushed me further in this direction. I do believe in God and Jesus Christ as his son or messanger. But I do not support the Bible as a religious text. I see it as a mythological history of the Jews (old testament), which contains some true but mostly embellished accounts. And as a manipulation of the teachings of Christ (new testament) perverted by human hands.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

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    • Originally posted by H Tower
      uh EVC? what's with the candle's and cards and all? have you even read through a book of the bible yet? and your trying to convert people already? shouldn't you be taking this slower?
      I think he was being sarcastic, because he thought that I was insinuating that his religion is a cult. However, all that he has told us, would leave a reasonable person to suspect that about it. Hopefully, he will enlighten us more about the nature of this church.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • so if you don't beliee in the bible... how do you know Jesus exists? (besides the fact he has a log in here at apolyton, which btw, has been disabled)

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        • Originally posted by DaShi


          I think he was being sarcastic, because he thought that I was insinuating that his religion is a cult. However, all that he has told us, would leave a reasonable person to suspect that about it. Hopefully, he will enlighten us more about the nature of this church.
          this wasn't the only thread he mentioned evangelism in

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          • Originally posted by H Tower


            this wasn't the only thread he mentioned evangelism in
            I just saw.
            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
            "Capitalism ho!"

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            • Does this event herald the return of CivNation?
              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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              • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                Does this event herald the return of CivNation?
                I wish but he's been permabanned.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • Originally posted by DinoDoc


                  I wish but he's been permabanned.
                  maybe, but civvie might come back if he sees converts here at apolyton...

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                  • to whomever came up with that Jesus H Christ bit. Hilarious. And an entirely appropriate response to this utterly nonsensical group of threads by EvC. EvC gets a 3.8. JHC gets a 10.0.
                    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                    • Originally posted by DinoDoc


                      I wish but he's been permabanned.
                      Wasn't Civvie a DL of EVC's?
                      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                      • Originally posted by Guynemer
                        to whomever came up with that Jesus H Christ bit. Hilarious. And an entirely appropriate response to this utterly nonsensical group of threads by EvC. EvC gets a 3.8. JHC gets a 10.0.
                        JHC got a one way trip to mingapulco in about 7 minutes. Ming didn't even give him 40 days to spread the good word

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                        • Originally posted by DaShi


                          I just saw.
                          So if a church evangelizes it's acult? Hello! Have you ever heard of something called the Great Comission??

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                          • Originally posted by DaShi


                            They would use music to confuse their younger members. By playing very loudly, the fools actually believed that the vibrations they felt in their bodies was the spirit of God. The false euphoria was the Holy Spirit, in their younger impressionable minds. I stayed out of morbid curiousity. I never said that I wasn't evil , I enjoyed watching them be manipulated. Throwing their lives away, so that I could surpass them easily in real life. I felt little sympathy for them because they had become such mindless, nonhuman fools. You can always spot an American 'Christian' by looked at their glazed eyes. Everyone is the same. Eventually, I grew tired of them, and they grew less receptive to me. They wouldn't even let me into their church one time. That last I heard, their ex-murder preacher is giving sermons on the evils of Islam and how they should be converted to Christianity.
                            Maybe they're slipping their "converts" some E's? I've always wondered how easy it would be to set up one of those cults. I think with a few brains, and no scrupules you could make a big wallop of cash of impressionable idiots.

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                            • Originally posted by lightblue
                              I think with a few brains, and no scrupules you could make a big wallop of cash of impressionable idiots.
                              How do you think that Scientology (sp) got started?
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                How do you think that Scientology (sp) got started?
                                Maybe Poly OT could set up a nice little pseudo-religion. We already have a pretty decent geographical spread for that sort of thing. And we sure have the imagination.

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