History Quiz: The Spanish Cvil War was fought...

[HisMajestyBOB]

I believe they were nationalists supported by fascists (Italy, Hitly) and became associated w/ them and were considered fascists.
So i got this poll right too (well, the textbook answer, at least)

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yes they were Fascists, but Franco refered to the movement as the Nationalist movement.

The two sides (textbook answer) are the Republicans and Nationalists.

[Deity Dude]

Showing my myopic American self for what it is, I misread the question as Spanish-American War, so I voted wrong.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yes they were Fascists, but Franco refered to the movement as the Nationalist movement.

Who cares about Franco? He could have called his movement the Donald Duck movement for all I care, it doesn´t change anything.

But as you say, the textbook answer is republican and nationalist.

BTW In Swedish textbooks they´re referred to as either fascists or falangists...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
OK, who's the fool who thought that they would pick oneof each?!

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Deity Dude
Showing my myopic American self for what it is, I misread the question as Spanish-American War, so I voted wrong.

Didn't the choices look rather odd to you? I mean, if I was asked "Who fought in the Spanish-American War," I'd expect "Spain" and "USA" as two options...

[Lefty Scaevola]

Franco statred as a monachist, then migrated to a tradisionalist (all the old ways except the monachy) co-opted the facists in his coalistion, then was somewhat co-opted by them. He had a few metamorphasis, but that is commonly the case with leading persons in multifactional civil wars. The spanish civil war did a great deal of good for the USA. A significant portion of our commies and socialists got their fool asses killed, relieving us of their burden in the following critical years.

[Thorgal]

BTW In Swedish textbooks they´re referred to as either fascists or falangists...

The Falangists were a group separated inside the fascists equivalent to the Nazi´s SS.

In Spain we denominate "rebeldes" (rebellious) to fascists , because they were revealed against the legitimate government of the republic.

The "nationalistic" denomination, though historically admitted, dont like to us, since it was invented by Franco to "dignify" his subversion.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by thorgalaeg
the legitimate government of the republic.

Given the very dubious history of the last republican goverments, such a the deposition of the president because he was a moderate, and failing to make intervention in the long period of violence against it opponents (including nearly 400 arson attacks against churches) prior to the revolution, I would term that the "not entirely illegitimate government"

[axi]

Lefty, don't you DARE talk about Spain!

I'm with Ramo on this. There were 3 sides on this conflict: Revolution - Counterevolution - Fascism. The first two were supposed to fight together against the 3rd, but they couldn't help but fight eachother, since it is their definition to do so. Covertly of course. Revolution was the big loser of this.

This was a bad poll. Please don't make historical polls on issues that history has not decided yet.

And of course...

VISCA POUM!

[Dr. Nick]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Historically there are two main sides.

Yes. The Falangists and a loose messy confederation of unions, collectives, internationalist brigadists and an assortment of leftist, fascist hating folk, socialists, communists and anarchists.

[Imran Siddiqui]

El, exactly. The Nationalists and the Republicans.

And axi, Lefty probably knows more about history than you do in your pinky finger.

[Dr. Nick]

Except that the Republicans weren't really a "side", there was so much internal fighting.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It doesn't matter... they were still loosely connected to one side.

[Bosh]

It isn't necessarily accurate to call Franco a fascist, he's a lot closer to Latin American military dictators than to either Mussolini or Franco, the relatively moderate (for fascists) Falangists were part of Franco's side but they got borged pretty effectively.

The Moroccan nationalists weren't anywhere close to being another side, pretty much all they did in Spanish Morocco during the Civil War is hide out there from the French.

As far as why the Republic lost the war there's two main causes. The first is the the Moroccan Regulares were damn good fighters that without the Nationalists wouldn't have standed a change, after all the initial uprising only netted them around a fifth of spain and only about half of the Spanish army. Also when the civil started the armies units that stayed loyal to the Republic had their officer corps purged nearly out of existance, this made the Republican army pretty much defunct and the militias became the de facto republican army. The communists then did everything they could to undermine the power of the militias and then rebuilt a regular army while the militias held the fronts with the dregs of the Republic's weopons. If either the Republican army units had been left intact, if the communists etc. had placed their full support behind the militias and cooperated with the anarchists instead of making destructive power-grabs then Franco would probably have been crushed.