Looks like Saddam is worried

[lightblue]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1801000/1801293.stm

Saddam wants unconditional talks with the UN regarding the return of UN weapons inspectors. Looks like Bush's tough stance is working.

Is it going to be enough for the US though?

[David Floyd]

Personally, I think Iraq is within its rights as a sovereign nation to refuse weapons inspectors in, but I realize I'm in the minority here.

[lightblue]

Yeah, but if it a choice between lifting of sanctions and staying in power by letting inspectors in and becoming the next target in the US' crosshairs, probably resulting in Saddam's removal from power, I would know what i would chose if I were him.

[David Floyd]

Well, certainly, but that doesn't make it right.

[lightblue]

Well, you lose a war, you get nasty conditions put on you. Been that way throughout history.

[David Floyd]

Again, doesn't make it right....especially because he lost a war because the US and other nations did stuff THEY shouldn't have done in the first place. And no, he wasn't justified in invading Kuwait himself, either.

[lightblue]

I don't say I agree, but I look at what's happening. I still think it won't be enough to stop the US "relieving" Saddam of his powers.

[Djugashvili]

Originally posted by lightblue
Well, you lose a war, you get nasty conditions put on you. Been that way throughout history.

Hmm so this justifies the starvation deaths of 500,000+ Iraqi children due to sanctions over the years?

[orange]

David Floyd - your position on things doesn't make any sense.

People do unjustified things, and when they do, other people decide that they're not justified in doing it and do something about it. We don't live in a perfect world where everyone follows the rules and minds their own business and does what is morally correct.

[David Floyd]

orange-

Person A does something that is unjustified. In order to stop him, I have to do something that is unjustified, and none of my business. As two wrongs don't make a right, I simply mind my own business.

That's how we shoulda handled Saddam, IMO.

[orange]

Originally posted by David Floyd
orange-

Person A does something that is unjustified. In order to stop him, I have to do something that is unjustified, and none of my business. As two wrongs don't make a right, I simply mind my own business.

That's how we shoulda handled Saddam, IMO.

Suppose that's how we should have handled Hitler too

[David Floyd]

Actually yes it is, IMO

[orange]

You must be an anarchist then. If I kill you, your parents and the government have no right to do anything about it because it's none of their business.

Same principle

[Kyle]

Originally posted by Djugashvili


Hmm so this justifies the starvation deaths of 500,000+ Iraqi children due to sanctions over the years?

Sanctions had nothing to do with that. Iraq receives plenty of money to feed it's people, but he insists on spending it on military purposes.

[David Floyd]

Not true. My example was poor.

Insert "country" in my example instead of "person", and bingo that's what I believe.

National sovereignty trumps all, at least in terms of interactions between foreign nations.