The New Anti-Drug Commercial

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by David Floyd
And I still haven't figured out the connection between Columbian drug lords and OBL

not the drug lords

the apparatus

Jon Miller

[Berzerker]

Faded Glory -

Umm.......Does the truth hurt?

Because its true if you happen to like cocaine.

Since when did the terrorists get into the cocaine business? Are you now agreeing that diamonds, oil, stocks, and currency, guns, among countless other products like airplanes should be banned and people caught using these should be imprisoned because some people use them to hurt others?

Crops--->Cocaine-------->$$$$$$$----->Guns for Columbian druglords who fund the leftist guerilla's for protection of there crops from the goverment.

You forgot a quite important word - "illegal" crops. The reason "druglords" pay off leftist guerillas for protection is because we have pushed "our" drug war on Colombia which has made cocaine illegal to satisfy US freedom haters. Colombia didn't have this problem when cocaine was legal, go figure...

But Weed.....most of our stuff comes from Canada these days

Information like this was conveniently left out of the "government" commercials since they wanted to blame everyone who uses an illegal drug.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If the drugs were legal than the apparatus wouldn't be there.

[ixnay]

Personally, I fail to see why anyone would use drugs in the first place...

Seems like a big waste of money to me.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Faded Glory -

Since when did the terrorists get into the cocaine business? Are you now agreeing that diamonds, oil, stocks, and currency, guns, among countless other products like airplanes should be banned and people caught using these should be imprisoned because some people use them to hurt others?

It's not an issue about whether they use them to hurt others - I think that the commerical was saying they fund terrorism with profits from the drug buisness. I haven't seen the commerical, but that's what it seems like to me.

[DinoDoc]

Re: The New Anti-Drug Commercial

Originally posted by Berzerker
Just broadcast during the Super Bowl was the accusation that people who use "drugs" might be helping to fund terrorists.

That depends on the drugs you choose to use. Now, truely was your problem really the fact that they chose to make no distinction for your favorite pharmacutical of choice? Or are you really so naive as to believe that "bad" people don't sell illegal things?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think that the commerical was saying they fund terrorism with profits from the drug buisness.

Yeah, but you should have seen that reprehensible 2nd commerical. Kids saying "It hurts nobody right" and then saying "I helped kill a police officer".

Totally distastful and a pack full of lies... wonder how they'd like it if some group had a commerical on how ending the war on drugs wouldn't lead to that.

[Andrew1999]

A description for those not watching the Superbowl:

The first commercial is laid out like the MasterCard ads. It flashes up up images of people with guns, bombs, etc. alternating with messages like "Explosives: $1000" "Cars: $500" "AK-47: $1500" "Box cutters: $10". Then at the end: "Ever wonder wonder where terrorists get their money? If you buy drugs, it could be from you."



I really doubt the box cutters were bought with crack money. How about:

"Ever wonder where terrorists get their money? If you buy gas, it could be from you."

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Andrew1999
I really doubt the box cutters were bought with crack money.

Afghanistan's main export is opium, not oil.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Andrew1999
"Ever wonder where terrorists get their money? If you buy gas, it could be from you."

Corporations are not the kind of terrorists they are talking about - they like those kind.

[DanS]

"Totally distastful and a pack full of lies..."

Not at all a pack full of lies. It's a very direct connection. If somebody buys crack, for instance, they are responsible for all of the acts down the line that got them that crack.

Same too with oil, although the responsibility is scrubbed somewhat by the blind-buyer, blind-seller commodity market.

[Andrew1999]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Afghanistan's main export is opium, not oil.

And if OBL got any money from the Taliban that might be important, but all the financial aid flowed in the other direction.

Besides, Mullah Omar was considered a valuable partner in the War on Drugs. Too bad John Lindh wasn't in his anti-drug unit--we probably would have given him a medal.

[Ramo]

Leftist guerilla's in Columbia are quite known for there Car-Bombs in Bogota, Kidnapping western journalists for ransom and Crimes against small villages.

Same with the state and its rightist paramilitary cronies, but much more so. Nonetheless, the conflict between the Colombian state and the guerilla groups, and the civilians who are caught in between, is not directly related to drugs. It would go on with or without US cocaine legalization, as it has for much of the past century.

But drug legalization would severely limit the power of the state, the AUC, and the FARC (and other guerilla groups) by drastically reducing the income these organizations gain through the taxation of coca (IIRC, the AUC gains 70% of its income through coca taxation, and the the FARC 50%), thereby reducing the net terror in Colombia. Furthermore, the power of the drug traffickers, who are complicit with both sides of the conflict, would dissolve, further reducing the terror in the region.

So, actually you prohibitionists support terrorists.

So ones ok, we should allow them all? Fuzzy Logic......

Alcohol is legal, so marijuana, which is arguably not as bad, should be illegal? Fuzzy logic.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Not at all a pack full of lies. It's a very direct connection. If somebody buys crack, for instance, they are responsible for all of the acts down the line that got them that crack.

LOLOLOL!

So, if you buy a pack of cigarettes then you are responsible for the deaths of those that die of lung cancer from cigs?

How far do you go?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
So, if you buy a pack of cigarettes then you are responsible for the deaths of those that die of lung cancer from cigs?

Well, you'll be responsible for your own death.