Is George Bush starting to sound like a Tyrant?

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by faded glory


dunno. Im sayin all kinds of wierd **** tonight.

Hmmm... you mean "wierd ****" like it's okay to call black people "******s"?

I should probably go to bed.....otherwise Im ging to drink myself to sleep

Then I will feel like total **** tommorrow

It's patently obvious that you're either already drunk, or you're already total ****.

[blackice]

Originally posted by Tingkai


This isn't about the cops patrolling the world. This is about the rich neighbour with lots of guns suddenly deciding he is going to decide who is a threat and who is not. And his definition of a threat is anyone who has different values than what he believes in.

Besides, if we follow this analogy, where are the checks and balances on the global cops? Yes, we need to protect ourselves from criminals, but we don't want to live in a police state.

Rich neighbor or concerned parent? Is it really I hope you are right looks like YOU are willing to take that CHANCE.

Trust comes to mind again...

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Is that why they give active support to the Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah, arm the opposition to the US backed government in Afghanistan, and ship 50 tons of weapons to the PA?

Likewise, the US actively supports the CIA, the Saudi royal family, and Israel. They ship lots of weapons and give billions of aid to countries that are "loyal."

Self-serving is fine. It's this double standard and "holier than thou" attitude that are causing backlashes.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by blackice


Rich neighbor or concerned parent? Is it really I hope you are right looks like YOU are willing to take that CHANCE.

Trust comes to mind again...

Given the past record of American foreign policies, a logical reaction is not to trust Washington.

The thing I don't understand is that the average American complains all the time about big government and the idiots in Washington, but when it comes to going out in the world, they have no problems with letting these fools off the leash.

[blackice]

And visa vie yet "the fools" do not crash planes full of innocent people (children included) into "civillian" buildings... getting the picture now?

When was the last time you heard of "the fools" gassing their own people?

unreal a logical reaction is not to trust anyone in power at least we have the right to do that and publicly voice ourslves and democraticaly change the situation do they?

[Grrr]

Lets start a war on terror (on GWB).

He didn't even get most votes in an election, and came into government undemocratically.

[DaShi]

[insert baseless speculations and generalizations]

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by blackice
And visa vie yet "the fools" do not crash planes full of innocent people (children included) into "civillian" buildings... getting the picture now?

Yeah, they just drop bombs on them.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by WhiteElephants

quote:

Originally posted by Osweld

You conduct yourselves in different fashion, but both goverments rose to power through war, and both goverments control their citizens.

Well, there's nothing like a good conspiracy theory...

...and this is nothing like a good conspiracy theory!

[Case]

I just heard a Bush sound bite on the radio. In it he was threatening "all countries who don't share our values". I take it the US is now going to bomb everyone.

*starts learning the rules of baseball*

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Self-serving is fine.

Self-serving is expected but we shouldn't be decietful and claim that Bush destroyed a warming relationship between the two countries given the facts that I laid out. It's like getting mad at someone who says that China doesn't deserve to host the Olympics becuase of its atrocious human rights record.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by blackice
And visa vie yet "the fools" do not crash planes full of innocent people (children included) into "civillian" buildings... getting the picture now?

The CIA has been instigating insurgents in regions hotile to the USA, with ensuing wars claimed untold number of innocent lives.

The "fools" have been supporting barbaric regimes that are/were "loyal" to them.

I hope your criticism is a bit more comprehensive.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Guynemer


Hmmm... you mean "wierd ****" like it's okay to call black people "******s"?



It's patently obvious that you're either already drunk, or you're already total ****.

I didn't see that one. Would you be so kind as to point it out for me? (don't have time to search)

[blackice]

Yeah, they just drop bombs on them.

Intentionally?

That is the difference to ignore that fact for the sake of a point is a waste of time conversation.

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Originally posted by blackice
The way I see it we have police patrol the streets in every country in the world... Why? to protect the honest innocent, what then is wrong with "patroling" the world for the same reason? Trust?

Because the World is not necessary agree that you decide what It must do ! Of course you could try to impose your will to the world, but you have not to be suprised that some nation will not be happy.

And the objective of your gouvernment isn't simply wipe out terrorist organizations (Maybe Bush have simply this objective, but you have surely lot of organization which have different objectives, less ... legitim and which will exploit the 9/11 events).

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I don't think that the police protect innocent citizen in dictatorial countries.