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  • Direct attack against free speech by US secret services!

    From la.indymedia.org:

    LOS ANGELES, JAN 23 2002 - Heavily armed with high-powered machine guns, shot guns, and hand guns, the FBI, Secret Service, and Los Angeles Police Department sorounded the founder of raisethefist.com in his house. The founder was currently asleep, woken up by a relative who said fbi, police and undercover's were currently up and down all of the streets, with they're eyes focused on the premises. Raisethefist.com founder aproached the door were 2 FBI agents demanded that he step outside. Within seconds a swarm of FBI raided the house with automatic weapons and shot guns. Additional police and fbi also stayed on the front lawn, around the house with a door baracade and additional weapons. "armed and ready".

    FBI and secret service entered the house, seizing all servers and political liturature. Raisethefist.com was currently being ran within the founders room of the house, over a computer network. The room was literarly ransacked, and all equipment, disks, cd's .. etc. were boxed up, loaded into a truck and seized until further notice.

    Since 1999, raisethefist.com has been under extensive government monitering. At times, Raisethefist.com has recieved over 100 hits from the U.S Department of Defense in a single day. The FBI, police department, NSA (and who else) continuesly monitered the site on a daily basis. Even government's from the UK, Canada, Lavtia, Belgium, Egypt, Finland, and Australia monitered the site continuesly. The FBI had also previously intercepted all packets going through the DSL line hosting the site, and have seized additional accounts being used by the site.

    In yet another successfull attempt to silence our vioces, Raisethefist.com, an anarchist/activist independent media/collective has been shut down by the secret service.

    "It's not yet known at this point if the site will be back up. As of now, we have nothing. No more servers, no more network, nothing. My room remains completly ransacked. My neighbors remain shaken up by what happend. I most likely won't be getting any of the equipment back. They also took alot of my political litature. Apparently, they're excuse for shutting it down was the 'militancy' portrayed on the site. This is not true. This was an excuse. This same 'militancy' they were concerned about is portrayed on at least a thousand other web sites across the internet, and they havn't been touched by the federal government, with the exception for remote monitering. Raisethefist.com was progresive. It was going somewhere. Kids started creating clubs in their schools called 'RaisetheFist'. People started utilizing the collective as a powerful resource for the activist/anarchist community. The federal government has been investigating me, and the site very closely, long before 9-11, and long before such militancy was even portrayed on the site. They knew the site had potential, that it was turning into something more than a site, but a strong collective utilized by activists throughout the world committed to social justice. And that's become a crime. Justice has become a crime. Freedom has become a crime. Anyone activly disagreeing with policies of the U.S is now automaticly rendered a "terrorist" in the eyes of national security.... Where raisethefist.com will go from here, I don't know. Based on what i've been told, i'll most likely be in jail, so most of my focus will be towards getting an attorney."
    Another strike against the so-called "freedom" that Americans are supposed to enjoy in their country.

    As it seems, only those who conform are allowed to be free in this "land of wonders"...

    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
    George Orwell

  • #2
    indymedia...
    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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    • #3
      *gasp*

      oh goodness me
      Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
      "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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      • #4
        This isn't funny...

        It looks funny, until you find your house surrounded...
        "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
        George Orwell

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        • #5
          Sorry, my sarcasm was not lack of sympathy, but lack of surprise.
          Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
          "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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          • #6
            There isn't much to say, really...

            Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

            Do It Ourselves

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            • #7
              What was that site anyway?
              "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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              • #8
                I've never seen the site but I hope that he, or someone else, recreates it in a new location or under a new guise.
                Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                Do It Ourselves

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                • #9
                  Wow, what a great source. You can tell how professional they are by their spelling, "litature".


                  So, if this was in LA, where's the LA Times report on it?

                  Oh, and I wouldn't be too surprised if this is just a little slanted. Gotta keep those people fighting the system.
                  I never know their names, But i smile just the same
                  New faces...Strange places,
                  Most everything i see, Becomes a blur to me
                  -Grandaddy, "The Final Push to the Sum"

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                  • #10
                    Is there an objective source that I could see on this incident? Or would it be considered acceptable if I started quoting stormfront.org's view of events as if it were gospel and expect you to agree with it?
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #11
                      Is there any reason why this source is not to be considered objective?

                      As objective as it can be, at any rate.
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • #12
                        This doesn't sound very good at all. However, I would certainly appreciate if I got a chance to find out what kind of site raisethefist.com was like, exactly, and whether there's more going on here than meets the eye.
                        "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
                        "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                          Is there any reason why this source isn't to be reporting objective news?
                          1) What was the reason for the raid? The posted article makes it seem like that it was based on the sole fact that he was the webmaster of an anarchist website. In which case why hasn't http://www.anti-state.com/ been raided as well?

                          2) You'll have to forgive me if I don't accept opinion pieces as fact?
                          Last edited by DinoDoc; January 26, 2002, 11:41.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Has this site been consistently pro-anarchism, generally anti-establishment, or has some sort of clear bias?
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                              Has this site been consistently pro-anarchism, generally anti-establishment, or has some sort of clear bias?
                              The bias is clear in the "news" article, Urban. Even if it came directly word for word from the BBC itself wouldn't clear it of its bias.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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