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They've got hm surrounded. And the Israeli's hav completely ocuppied Tulakarm with ease. They rounded up some terrorists and dusted em'.
Whats next? Arafat to step down I hear.
Whats next? Arafat to step down I hear.
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But its what comes after he steps down that counts. A better leader who really works for peace? Or another bloodthirsty bastard?A proud citizen of the only convicted terrorist harboring nation!
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A better leader who really works for peace?
According to the Isrealis I've talked to, such leaders do actually exist: Jibril Rajoub, Muhhamad Dahlan, along with most of the "second generation" of the PA leadership.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Let's just hope the moderates can win out and we can truly get, if not dialogue, then at least indifference between the two parties.I refute it thus!
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I feel quite sure that Arafat is not going to resign. It would be totally out of character, in fact, it would be meaningless - this is the symbol of Palestine, the man who ties his Keffiyeh in the shape of Palestine, the man who says "I am married to the Palestinian people." For him to reason is a meaningless concept, especially since his people do live in the Arab world - none of the other leaders of his generation (or the next one) have resigned from power peacefully.Originally posted by DinoDoc
A better leader who really works for peace?
IMHO, that's a peacenik fantasy. Mohammed Dahlan and Jibril Rajoub are heads of PA security in Gaza and the West Bank respectively; IIRC, Dahlan has had some disagreements with Arafat and has also been involved in the production of mortar shells. Jibril Rajoub was responsible for the kanagaroo courts which rounded up "collaborators" as a propaganda stunt. Marwan Barghouthi, head of Fatah in the West Bank, is more exreme than Arafat. The one genuinely good guy who is talked of as a contender is Sari Nusseibeh, Islamic philosopher and negotiator from East Jerusalem - but I don't think he'll ever get a chance.According to the Isrealis I've talked to, such leaders do actually exist: Jibril Rajoub, Muhhamad Dahlan, along with most of the "second generation" of the PA leadership.
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Eli is a peacenik?Originally posted by Natan
IMHO, that's a peacenik fantasy.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Like everything else in Israel, it's complicated. But the idea of a peaceful new generation of Palestinian leaders isn't wrong because the wrong people espouse it, it's wrong because it's incorrect.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Eli is a peacenik?
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So what does ISRAEL do? They have an entire tank division outside his house.....and are building massive barricades 10 feet high.
They should get on with it, and arrest him. He's a freakin terrorist
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He's no more a terrorist than Ariel Sharon.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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Define terrorist.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
He's no more a terrorist than Ariel Sharon.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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It's not my job. Ask one of those people who freely flings the terms "terrorism" and "terrorist" around.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Define terrorist.
Perhaps Dubya.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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It's not your job to substantiate your own claims? How do you figure that?Originally posted by Urban Ranger
It's not my job.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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What's my claim? You weren't asking me to substantiate my "claim," whatever it is. You were merely trying to play a game in semantics.Originally posted by DinoDoc
It's not your job to substantiate your own claims? How do you figure that?
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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Do you have somesort of short term memory problem, Urban? Does this statement look at all familiar to you: He's no more a terrorist than Ariel Sharon.? I was curious about your definition of the term so I could find out if your claim was at all grounded in reality. If you consider, critical examinations of your BAs to be a game in semantics so be it.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
What's my claim?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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So you are saying that there is a material distinction between what Ariel Sharon (and other Israeli hardliners) are/were doing and what the Pals are/were doing?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Do you have somesort of short term memory problem, Urban? Does this statement look at all familiar to you: He's no more a terrorist than Ariel Sharon.? I was curious about your definition of the term so I could find out if your claim was at all grounded in reality. If you consider, critical examinations of your BAs to be a game in semantics so be it.
If so, I reckon you're the one who has to provide such distinctions.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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