12 million Jews in the world

[chequita guevara]

Saying that Jews run Hollywood is not saying the The Jews run Hollywood. Apparently there is a disproportionately large number of Jews among the rulers of Hollywood, like Speilberg and Spelling and others. However, not having done a survey of those running the production studios as well as individual producers, it would be difficult for me to declare that that any of the proceeding is true.

Your lists of world Jewry, however, leave out the Black Jews of Zimbabwe. Apparently Great Zimbabwe was founded by Yemeni Jews, and their ancestors live in the region today. They have Jewish names, practice a religion that is almost identical to Judaism, and even have a certain genetic trait in the same incidence in their population as Jews and Coheni respectively. Like the Fulani Jews of Ethiopia, they tend to be overlooked.

[Shi Huangdi]

It is unrealalistic to expect Israel to abandon the Law of Return, given the history of persecution of the Jewish people, it is neccesary for them ot have a place to run in case another ugly wave of anti-semitism turns up. However, Israel would also do well to acknowledge the Palestinian right to live in the land they are in, as well as doing something about the Palestinian refugee situation they have created.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Gareth Edmunson
As far as I'm concerned, if everyone in the world only wore Old Navy and ate at McDonalds everyday, I wouldn't care as long as they're safe healthy and happy. It would kind of be a shame that all these cultures were gone, but who cares? Cultural diversity is interesting, but by no means necessary.

But most people of the world do care about their culture and religion.

And I don't understand why you think you have a right to decide that is wrong.

You may think it's wrong, but you're in no position to judge.


There are many different cultures and traditions in the world, and I'd like to preserve them. I don't want every one to eat McDonalds. I don't have a problem with people who do, but I myself don't want the only thing to define me to be "eats at mcdonalds and just like anybody else".

Differences are not bad!

When you begin to hurt people according to their differences - that's bad.


Israel is in a very problematic situation. Most Israelis agree about preserving culture, but argue how much of it is culture and how much religion that shouldn't be part of normal state life.

Also, as for the arab's rights, Israel gives every one the same rights but still, Israel is defined as, and Israelis want it to be defined as a "Jewish state".

Why should any one have a problem with that, I don't know.

The arabs have many kids, and the only way to keep Israel jewish is promoting jewish emigration. We don't kill people who aren't jewish.

Why should there be a jewish state?
For the same reasons there is a russian, german and french one.

Canada and US are different.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Israel would also do well to acknowledge the Palestinian right to live in the land they are in, as well as doing something about the Palestinian refugee situation they have created.

The law of return in question is about allowing palestinian refugees to return to Israel -> with in the green line.

If Israel is to be preserved this won't happen.

However if they all want to live in the limited Gaza strip and Wset Bank, ok, but don't expect us to take care of them for free.

We give them water and electricity, and they have yet to pay for millions of dollars worth of electricity and water. However, Israel does not stop water or electricity, though some times pipes and lines get hit. But during cease fires, Israel does it's best to fix those.

I also disagree that the refugees are our fault.

/IsraelPalestine had any where from 300,000 to 700,000 arabs fleeing from it.

How is it Israel's fault that they have sex like wild monkeys and now have reached the staggerring number of 5,000,000 in only 50 years???

Also, the fleeing wasn't at all completely Israel's fault.

Had there wasn't a war declared by arabs against jews and a jewish state, there could peacefully be two countries.

One jewish with an arab minority, one arab with a jewish minority.

But arabs only wanted an arab country with zero jews. So they declared war and we kicked their ass over and over.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by David Murray
Uh oh. This thread is starting to turn nasty.

White hoods and burning crosses, anyone?

Come on, I think he was stating this as an observation, not as a claim agianst jews.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Gareth Edmunson
Actually, Jews are followers of Judaism, just like Catholics are followers of Catholicsm. A jew who doesn't follow Jedaism is a non-practicing Jew.

But still a jew. at least for as long as his jewish ethnicity doesn't disperse after several generations of marrying non-jews.

[Eli]

All Palestinian refugees who fled/were kicked out of Israel in 1948 should be allowed to return to Israel when a permanent agreement is signed.

[axi]

It seems that the Israelis have created many enemies for themselves...

Gruesome, eh?

But that's how alot of people feel about it.

[Buck Birdseed]

Hmmm... Calling arabs "monkeys". What twentieth-century dictatorship does that remind me of?

[Az]

Snapcase : he didn't call the arabs monkeys. he said that arabs have sex like monkeys. this is different . It may sound like I am covering his ass but I am not. this is different . He was using monkeys as a metaphore to wild sexual behavior ( though I don't know why ). That's like saying that if I say that someone is free like a bird , I mean that he is a bird.


axi : I can't wait to get conscripted . I always wanted to kill civilians... and you know , If I do real good , maybe they let me take a flamethrower for a ride around those refugee camps...., no even better , I could take a big kebab and shove some palestinian kids on it !!! yummeee!!!!



P.S. raw doves

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov


Come on, I think he was stating this as an observation, not as a claim agianst jews.

Yes, that's right Siro, that's exactly what I meant.

It is neither meant as a good or bad statement, just an observation.

Geez, you can't mention race or ethnicity or religion anymore without people mindlessly throwing crap at you!!! Even when you try to discuss those topics with an open mind, people are so eager to jump on your case to elevate themselves. paiktis, for example, took alot of sh1t for some of his race and religion based threads.

[Sirotnikov]

Re: It seems that the Israelis have created many enemies for themselves...

Originally posted by axi
Gruesome, eh?

But that's how alot of people feel about it.

You know, that's just like posting a picture from a Nazi news paper depicting Rotschild as an octopus trying to take over the world and saying "some people feel that way".




People who feel that way never got a chance to think for themselves.

The message behind the painting, that Israelis and Jews in general are blood hungry man-hating grues is not caused by the events.

It's taught in school. In math lessons and in literacy lessons and in newspapers and on TV. It's a system that Gebbels would be proud of.

Just look at Eli's "Jews are taking over the world" thread.

An arab newspaper prints a false "research" by an invented "american european research center" that says that jews want violence and war and from the 19th century are in the process in taking over the world

Gruesome, huh?

But that's how some people feel about it!

And that hardly makes it true, and the fact that you come and post such pictures and give them justification is as horrific as the fact people draw such things in the first palce.

[Berzerker]

David Palmer -

Uh oh. This thread is starting to turn nasty.

White hoods and burning crosses, anyone?

No sight of white hoods or burning crosses, just the nastiness of "political correctness" seeping into the thread. He was responding to a comment about the perception that there are more Jews in the world and the fact Jews have so much control over Hollywood helps promote that perception.

[Natan]

Re: It seems that the Israelis have created many enemies for themselves...

Originally posted by axi
Gruesome, eh?

But that's how alot of people feel about it.

And a lot of people feel this way too:

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David Murray: Hitler killed 6 million Jews, not eight million, but otherwise, yeah.

Shi Huandgi: Only one party in the Knesset rejects the idea of a Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza, and it has four MKs out of 120. It's not that Israelis are against peace, it's that they know Arafat is.

[Berzerker]

Sirotnikov -

We give them water and electricity, and they have yet to pay for millions of dollars worth of electricity and water.

It was stolen from them in the first place.

I also disagree that the refugees are our fault.

Kick someone off their land, then you're to blame for their "refugee" status.

How is it Israel's fault that they have sex like wild monkeys and now have reached the staggerring number of 5,000,000 in only 50 years???

Do you have documentation that "wild monkeys" procreate at faster rates than Jews? If someone used an analogy comparing Jews to monkeys, they'd be called "anti-semitic"; since these Arabs are also semitic, does that mean you are anti-semitic?

Also, the fleeing wasn't at all completely Israel's fault.

Yeah, how dare them try to runaway from the threat posed by Jews.

Had there wasn't a war declared by arabs against jews and a jewish state, there could peacefully be two countries.

That doesn't justify taking lands fron non-combatants.

But arabs only wanted an arab country with zero jews. So they declared war and we kicked their ass over and over.

Arabs and Jews lived on that land prior to 1948 without the violence we now see. And the Arabs didn't declare war because they didn't want Jews living there, they declared war because the British and the Jews stole the land from Arabs.