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  • #61
    Just caught it.
    Was originally supposed to see it yesterday, but I lost my ticket. 200:- (equivalent to $20) to hell. Almost cried at the tram on my way home.

    So I saw it in solitude today instead.

    It was on the whole a neat translation from book to screen, although some of the original Tolkien-feeling had been lost in favour of sheer action.
    And eventually one gets a little annoyed at the blue lens/desaturation à la Matrix, which seems to be custom in today's Hollywood flicks.
    Thought Elijah Wood was a little unnatural in the beginning, but midways it turned out the role as Frodo fitted him like a glove.
    Lothlorien and Rivendel was the dullest parts, just like in the book.

    A bizarre thing was that they made an half-an-hour break about midways through, the filmstock split or something. Then when they started it again, they were x minutes ahead. So sickly incompetent.
    Last edited by Juggernaut; December 22, 2001, 13:42.

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    • #62
      You know what I don't like about Mr.Smith as Elrond? It's his vocal pacing, it saturates his acting, (now read this previous line with Mr.Smiths voice in your head), and his facial expressions are so dark and intense.
      What if your words could be judged like a crime? "Creed, What If?"

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      • #63
        watched it, loved it.

        I hated it that I read the book and knew the story line that well.
        I think it's better to be surprised by the movie, like I was surprised by the book. But so be it.

        I think Jackson stayed as close to the book as he could do with a movie like this. Places like Rivendel, Lotlorien and the mines of moria were done so perfectly. And I have to admit that most of the characters looked more or less the way I had imaginated them.

        I went with my family, 7 of us had read the book, only my mother didn't. Last time we were in the cinema as a family was with The little mermaid, 12 years ago or something (of course without my girlfriend and my brother in law)

        We all loved it, and we loved it as well to talk about it with each other, and talk about the book Family live rocks in those days.

        I want to visit it again, but I might wait until the hype is more or less over.

        Can't wait for the dvd-release, and The Two Towers !
        I saw already a movie-picture of Gandalf the White

        I'll post it in a spoiler thread.

        CyberShy
        Formerly known as "CyberShy"
        Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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        • #64
          Watched the movie as well?
          Not yet, will probably watch it soon.

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          • #65
            Just came back from the movie. Like everyone says, it's amazing; one of the best I have ever seen.

            BTW ,since there was some discussion about this,I haven't read the book but the basic plot was perfectly clear even if I don't remember all the names and places.

            If the next two in the series reach this level, the trilogy will be a landmark in cinema history.

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            • #66
              For everybody who's already watched it:

              How would you compare it with other recent (or not so recent) epic films? Gladiator, Braveheart, perhaps even Willow, and, most definitely, Excalibur?
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              • #67
                Much, much better than the others. IMO
                What if your words could be judged like a crime? "Creed, What If?"

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                • #68
                  Hmm, even better than Excalibur? Do you think it tells Tolkien tales better than Excalibur told the Arthuric (?) myths?
                  "An intellectual is a man who doesn't know how to park a bike"
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                  • #69
                    Yes.

                    But I liked Gladiator, too.

                    Trying to think of favourite films of the last few years: Gladiator was great, Matrix was too, LOTR obviously, and, um I liked the Truman Show. The rest was generally complete garbage.

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                    • #70
                      Interesting. I can't say I liked Matrix, though. Great FX, but quite a silly plot.

                      So how would you compare with Star Wars then (not the Phantom Menace, of course)?

                      And with any other classic adventure films?
                      "An intellectual is a man who doesn't know how to park a bike"
                      - Spiro T. Agnew

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                      • #71
                        out of those three I've only seen Gladiator.
                        I wouldn't put the matrix in the 'epos' category.

                        I during LoTR much more happens then during all those other epos'
                        I liked Star Wars very much, part 1 pherhaps even more. I bought Gladiator, and I've seen it many times, but I think I like LoTR more. There are more characters in it, more happens, more different landscapes and places in which it all happens.

                        But I've to see the movie a few more times to say my final word about that.
                        Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                        Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                        • #72
                          The only complaint I could concieve is that whenever I looked at Elrond I didn't see a half-human loremaster, I just saw agent Smith. But perhaps thats more a tribute to the actors memorable performance as the latter rather than criticism.

                          The acting, I feel, was top notch. All those cast gave memorable believeable performances and they even managed to make Merry and Pippin less annoying than their counterparts from Tolkien's text.

                          As far as the transition from book to big screen goes, some might feel they haven't been entirely true to the original text, but having just finished reading the lord of the rings I feel it's an improvement. Die hard fans might find the differences annoying ( I was worried they've missed the friendship between Legolas and Gimil ( which at least during the Two Towers was an excellent part of the story as a whole ) but I'm assured they're going to put it in the text film ) but for me they actually made the tale much better.

                          They've had to remove quite a lot that was in the book to cut it down to fit in 3 hours, but seeing as that includes the removal of.... Tom Bombadil.... I can't help but rejoyce at the fact.

                          And as movies go ( ignoring the book ).... it's fantastic. Words can't describe it. The begining is fantastic, the ending is memorable, the battle scenes are all expertly coordinated and directed in a very fast paced, all-over-the-place kind of way that actually gives you a feeling of the action they're depicting. It never goes over your head the way the book did ( some of the time when reading it I had to look at either the appendixes or the previous chapters to remember who the hell they were talking about when they mentioned this or that name ) but at the same time it doesn't dumb it down too much. It does it just right.

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                          Go twice!

                          Go thrice!

                          And..... then just go as often as you can till they show it on TV and you can tape it.
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                          • #73
                            "If the next two in the series reach this level, the trilogy will be a landmark in cinema history."

                            Kaut: I agree. Taking a look at the book for The Two Towers, there are 9 or so scenes that approach or surpass the scale of the Mines of Moria, depending on where Peter Jackson breaks between The Two Towers and Return of the King. In fact, I fear that the story will become too consistently intense...

                            Rohan
                            Treebeard
                            Helm's Deep
                            Isengard
                            Smeagol
                            The Marshes
                            The Black Gate
                            Cirith Ungol
                            Shelob

                            edit: Also, it will be interesting how PJ mixes the stories. Depending on how he does it, there could be 4 incredibly intense scenes back to back.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #74
                              in regards to taping it off of tv...

                              does anyone know for a fact if this movie had digital distribution? my money is on yes.

                              if so, one might as well think it would be worth a download...
                              B♭3

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                              • #75
                                I'm a huge fan of the books. I honestly did NOT have that high of expectations for the movie, i didn't think they could put it off. but WOW.

                                And folks, don't think me gimpy and all, but i was nearly in tears at times during this movie. Because it was so beautiful. . so . . breathtaking.

                                Memorable scenes from the movie that moved me the most . . .

                                The opening narration, when the history of the ring is spoken about, the scenery of middle earth . . .

                                When the nazgul are chasing frodo and co, frodo puts on the ring and everything is misty and blurred and he's stabbed, the race for rivendel, ESPECIALLY when Arwen races the nazgul and crosses the river, frodo is practically dying, and arwen, in her concern, her urgency, speaks in elvish and the flood comes down shaped like horses, breathtaking . . .

                                In the mines of moria, when fighting the balrog, and galdalf is pulled into the abyss, as he is struggling to pull himself up, he knows he is about to die and he says "run, fools" and falls and shows him falling. . . i damn near lost it . . .

                                in lothlorien, the moment of temptation that galadriel goes through, wow. and then afterwords, she says, almost surprised at herself, perfectly done, that she passed the test . . .

                                borimor's last stand, he's fighting, giving it his all, hit with and arrow DOWN. . .then up again! . . .fighting! DOWN! UP AGAIN!!!. . hit AGAIN DOWN!!!!! UP again fighting! yeah, kick ASS borimor!

                                wow, too many. there were a few minor changes from the book, of course, and a few things left out, but as others have said, and i agree, these things are not lacking from the movie. I can't wait for the sequels . . .wow.
                                -connorkimbro
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