Why are muslims more prone to terrorism as a means to achieve their goals?

[Ted Striker]

DETROIT -- The U.S. State Department, which periodically updates a list of known terrorist organizations, released its latest list, with a total of 28 groups.

At least four non-Muslim groups were listed: Ireland's Real IRA and two organizations from Colombia -- United Self-Defense Forces and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). A militant Jewish group, known as Kach, is also cited for terrorism.

So that's 4 out of 28 groups that WERE NOT MUSLIM.

http://www.news4jax.com/sh/news/stories/nat-news-100531820011005-121013.html

You can also take a look at the Department of State's list from 2000. Tell me what any other of those groups have in common! Yet there is an overwhelming similiarity in a majority of the groups and that is that THEY ARE MUSLIM. The only group that comes close is Communists or Marxists, Leninists. Here's a list of the Islamic organizations mentioned:

Abu Nidal organization (ANO)
Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya
HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
Hizballah (Party of God)
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
Al-Jihad
Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
The Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)
al-Qaida
Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous)

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2000/index.cfm?docid=2450

Any questions?

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Originally posted by Bob Dornan
Why is it that no Muslim country can live in peace with a non Muslim neighbor Because the Islam religion promotes itself as the only true one and non believers must be killed.

Ah ... Just read again your book on history of the western civilisations. And notes how agressive was the christian kingdoms !
(Catholics, englicans, protestans ...).

All monotheiste religions are agressive.

[Ted Striker]

Let me also point out that John Ashcroft also released a list of 46 terrorist groups, and it was CRITICIZED because it did not go far enough in naming specific Islamic groups based in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

[Roland]

"The U.S. State Department... the Department of State's list from 2000.... overwhelming similiarity in a majority of the groups and that is that THEY ARE MUSLIM. The only group that comes close is Communists or Marxists, Leninists."

What a.... surprise.

Can't be arsed to follow thelink. What kind of list is that supposed to be ? Where are say all the splinter groups from NI ?

[Ted Striker]

Find me a neutral link that refutes that list and you might actually have a counter argument Roland.

And YES, there are all the splinter groups from Northern Ireland listed on the list. I just named the Islamic ones mentioned. If you actually followed the link and you might have seen that.

It's a list of known terrorist groups, plain and simple.

[Ted Striker]

It also names off Jewish terrorist groups, along with a Royalist Irish group.

So I don't think there's as much bias as you think there is.

[Roland]

So with the splinter groups and other nuts, what is tha share of a) arab and b) islamic organisations ?

"Find me a neutral link that refutes that list and you might actually have a counter argument Roland."

Why don't you start by posting a list from a neutral source to begin with ?

[Berzerker]

Faboda -

Raaaaaaaaaacist.

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.

*cough*Klu-klux-klan*cough*Example of Christian fundementalism.*cough*Crusades*cough

A person is neither a racist or a bigot for criticizing a group or person for their religious beliefs.

Paiktis22 -

After all they have states that have armies that can do what ever it is they want to do.

This is contradicted by this:

their governments can not afford to go to a true war because USA would kick their butts so the people resort to terrorism?

And this:

their governments are dictatorships and do not obey their people's wishes so they resort to terrorism?

is it because they are screwed over and just can't take it anymore?

is it because they are lunatics?

what make these small fractions resort to terrorism more than others?

Because they are murderers with "God" on their side.

Of course, people with other forms of religion and ideology use their governmental systems to commit acts of terrorism and just call it "the law". For example, Jerry Falwell claims to be a man of "God" while demanding government cage millions of people for not behaving in accordance with his religion. And since he can't afford to have this done with his own money, he demands the same government rob hundreds of millions of people to pay for his desire to express his religion. Then there are the liberals who do the same thing except they don't always agree with Jerry on who should be put in cages.

[Ted Striker]

Well, I consider those sources to be as credible as any other. Just because it says, "US government" does not automatically exclude it.

Well, in the first link, 86% are Muslim, in the second automatically-biased-since-it's-US-one, 36%, making it the largest group on the list.

We aren't talking about Arabs, we're talking about Muslims.

If you want to find out about Arabs then do the calculations yourself, that's what the links are for.

[Roland]

"Just because it says, "US government" does not automatically exclude it."

It doesn't, but on a highly political matter where your terrorist is the next guy's freedom fighter, it is. A complete list of the partly US sponsored death squads in latin america might well outshine the islamic contribution...

"We aren't talking about Arabs, we're talking about Muslims."

Then why did you include say Abu Nidal ? IIRC that is a marxist one. Also most arab nationalist groups are related to the Baath movement (Syria+Iraq), which is secular.

[Ted Striker]

Abu Nidal organization (ANO)
a.k.a. Fatah Revolutionary Council, Arab Revolutionary Brigades, Black September, and Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims

Then provide me with a list of current US sponsored death squads.

South American groups are also on the list, by the way.

[Roland]

"Socialist muslims" ? I like that.

"South American groups are also on the list, by the way."

How many from the right ?

I'll leave it to Che and others to provide that list for...

[orange]

Statement: As a percentage, Blacks commit more murders in America than whites.

Is this to say that Blacks are naturally more violent and murderous than Whites? No. I think you see my point.

[Ted Striker]

Nobody is saying that they are terrorists simply because they are Muslim.

But a large percentage of terrorists ARE Muslim. Therefore they are statistically more prone to terrorism.

THAT is the point.

Black men statistically have a higher rate of incarceration than any other group. Are they more prone to end up being locked up? Yes, they are.

Whether that's envrionment, economics, or whatever, that's a fact. "Naturally" has nothing to do with it.

Roland if you want to talk about those lists any more, than you need to read them as I'm not going to spoon feed you.

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Originally posted by orange
Statement: As a percentage, Blacks commit more murders in America than whites.

Is this to say that Blacks are naturally more violent and murderous than Whites? No. I think you see my point.

I heard : for 10 black men who commited a murder, 9 are imprisoned until they are executed.
for 10 white men who commited a murder, less than 7 are executed...

Is it true ?