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[dexters]

There is a very stirring/patriotic ad produced by the Ad Council in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks.

I think it captures perferctly, the spirit that is America. It defines American thought, American culture and the American dream, something our friends who live in the old world with their little homogenous societies of all asians, all whities, all blackies will never grasp.

In their misery/envy mixed with that old world snobbiness, they create such polls as asking us to vote on whether America deserves to be in Civ III.


I Am Canadian, but America is like a second home to me. Rock on brothers.

Download the Ad here:

http://www.geocities.com/teamreavers/american.mov

p.s. Watch for the Japanese dude at the end. He's funny as hell when he says I AM AMERICA

[Gangerolf]

There is a very stirring/patriotic ad produced by the Ad Council in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks

What's this Ad Council, some kind of propaganda factory?

[dexters]

Originally posted by Gangerolf


What's this Ad Council, some kind of propaganda factory?

Yes. It also tell us how to bash inferior Europeans. I mean, when was the last time in the last fifty years a European has made it big without the backing of the American people, and their wallets. Wait, Linux! no no... the majority of its support are from American computer geeks. .

[KrazyHorse]

Actually...

And yes; the Ad Council usually serves as a public-service ad funder, but in recent months it has served as a propaganda machine.

This is slightly Off-Topic, don't you think dexter? If there are those that use a simple discussion on what a group needs to be included in a computer game, then that's their business. Some just want to discuss without nationalistic rancor.

[Dr. Nick]

Originally posted by Gangerolf


What's this Ad Council, some kind of propaganda factory?

Watch out for the upcoming ads...

"Evil Eurocom"- depicts the economic power of the EU and how they control the world economy. Aimed at creating anger against the EU.

"Dirty Mexicans"- depicts Mexicans robbing and raping beautiful and pure Texan women. Aimed at encouraging Texan oil tycoons to take up their shotgun and hunt down those evil sonsofb!itches who want to poison their bodily fluids!

[Dr. Nick]

Originally posted by dexters

I mean, when was the last time in the last fifty years a European has made it big without the backing of the American people, and their wallets.

Give me a break, as if the Americans did it out of the kindness of their hearts.

*sarcastic wet puppy look*

Jesus, I've seen the kind of cycles of things like the Marshall Plan. "We'll lend you money if you buy our stuff". As if they were aimed at helping Europe alone. C'mon, show some impartiality!

[Dauphin]

In their misery/envy mixed with that old world snobbiness

Looks like the propaganda has already corrupted one poor fellow.

[Caesar2760]

Most Americans respect and have nothing but good feelings for Europe as a whole, though some still get the creeps from certain Eastern European countries (Yes, I'm looking at you...). Anyway, all we ask is that you give us what we deserve. Up until this point, we have been a remarkable people with a mixed and interesting history of innovation and stagnation, culture and crass, diplomacy and isolationism, generosity and cut-throat capitalism. This history is comparable to, if not in chronology then in density, at least any other modern European state. So there. Respect our nation for what it is and has been, just as we do to you.

[d_dudy]

a canadian who likes america? cool

i like canada, for what it's worth

[dexters]

In the grand sweep of history, American ascendance came at the expense of European power. In fact, the very birth of America and many other countries in the Americas reduced European power and influence as former colonies aka puppet ass buddies of the "mother" country decided they won't be dictated to by some far off Monarch and decided to strike out on their own.

When The American Republic was established, the entire world was ruled by Monarchs. The idea of a Republic, although not a new idea, was a radical one in the 1700s, and many in Europe, especially the English viewed dismissed it as an experiment that was doomed to failure. When the experiment did not fail and infact thrived and strengthened DESPITE a bloody Civil war in which the English actively supported the Confederacy to contain American power by splitting it, it was apparent the American experiment had not only succeeded, it was creating a new world power.

Not to mention The American revolution was the direct catalyst for the French revolution, a revolution that produced Napoleon.

I'm not saying we should hate Europeans, but I think I understand the resentment. In less than one hundred years, European world domination has been replaced by a world centered on America. And at its height, all the powers in Europe were a bunch of squabbling, greedy kingdoms hell bent on destroying each other.

At America's height, it is one nation indivisble. And the best is yet to come.

[dexters]

Originally posted by d_dudy
a canadian who likes america? cool

i like canada, for what it's worth

We do A recent poll showed 80% of Canadians wouldn't mind joining the United States.

So if this was a game of Civilization, I'd say we're a few turns away from being swallowed up by American culture

The only problem is, you'll have to find room for 13 new stars on your flag. As Canada has 10 provinces and 3 territories.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by dexters


When The American Republic was established, the entire world was ruled by Monarchs. The idea of a Republic, although not a new idea, was a radical one in the 1700s, and many in Europe, especially the English viewed dismissed it as an experiment that was doomed to failure.

Gosh dexter, what history are they teaching in Canada now? The kind of history that misses out the English Civil War, and the establishment of an English republican Commonwealth? Or one that misses out the Dutch Republic of the United Provinces (see Treaty of Westphalia, 1648) or perhaps the Republic of Iceland, or San Marino, the Swiss cantons, and so on. Yes Europe really had to wait for America to show the way.....

https://www.csubak.edu/history/dutchgovt.htx

"something our friends who live in the old world with their little homogenous societies of all asians, all whities, all blackies will never grasp. "

Now which old world countries did you have in mind, I wonder....Great Britain, perhaps, with its sizeable population of Afro-Caribbean, African and Asian citizens. Presumably you think the Notting Hill Carnival is some ancient mediaeval Mummer's tradition, and that the Mela or Diwali festivals in Leicester relate to some lost all white Hindu tribe. Can it be only 1988 when t-shirts were being produced in Vancouver with the legend 'Hongcouver 88" on them, and that a few years later Montreal was all but cut off by First Nation bands.....

[dexters]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Gosh dexter, what history are they teaching in Canada now? The kind of history that misses out the English Civil War, and the establishment of an English republican Commonwealth? Or one that misses out the Dutch Republic of the United Provinces (see Treaty of Westphalia, 1648) or perhaps the Republic of Iceland, or San Marino, the Swiss cantons, and so on. Yes Europe really had to wait for America to show the way.....

www.csubak.edu/history/dutchgovt.htx

The problem of course all the examples presented above were small scale democracies. And with regards to the English commonwealth, need I remind you it failed with Cromwell's fall into despotic madness? I'm sure an Englishman in the 1700s thinking of the American Republic would think of the same failure suffered by the English Republic. This would in fact strengthen my argument that there was strong skepticism in Europe at the time that the American Experiment would ever succeed.

It has been long thought that Democracies in the scale of city states as exemplified by Athens would work, but would not work in a large scale. The importance of the American experiment was to show that a large scale Republic is not only feasable, but thrive, survive and produce a strong cohesive power. This is why Most historians have discounted small scale democracies (post-Athens) in Europe and elsewhere as they were all consistent with the traditional belief that small scale democracies work. America was the exception.

Oh yes, and America did show the way. It not only contributed directly to the French Revolution it destroyed the stranglehold of European powers around the world as their colonies began in earnest independence movements. America was the first of the European colonies to declare independence.

"something our friends who live in the old world with their little homogenous societies of all asians, all whities, all blackies will never grasp. "

Now which old world countries did you have in mind, I wonder....Great Britain, perhaps, with its sizeable population of Afro-Caribbean, African and Asian citizens. Presumably you think the Notting Hill Carnival is some ancient mediaeval Mummer's tradition, and that the Mela or Diwali festivals in Leicester relate to some lost all white Hindu tribe. Can it be only 1988 when t-shirts were being produced in Vancouver with the legend 'Hongcouver 88" on them, and that a few years later Montreal was all but cut off by First Nation bands.....

English multiculutralism was a result of Empire. North American diversity is the result of an idea that all people can build a country. The major difference is that while the English emerged as collection of tribes that have inhabited Britania for centuries, Americans and Canadians were immigrants. The mindset and purpose is completely different, and comparing the diversity in say an established old world country was mostly the result of convinience , natural migration, and the nomadic traditions of certain tribes intermixing with others. It is not the same as the idea of getting people of different race and ethnicity to come together and build a country.

And if you'd be so inclined, lets compare Numbers.

Your home country of Australia
Ethnic groups: Caucasian 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%
Wow. So many whities.

Your "great" example of United Kingdom as a multicultural nation

English 81.5%, Scottish 9.6%, Irish 2.4%, Welsh 1.9%, Ulster 1.8%, West Indian, Indian, Pakistani, and other 2.8%
Wow! 2.8% of the population is non White! great! truly diverse.

And both UK and Australia are considered to be more diverse countries. Many other countries, whether it be in Europe or Asia (say Japan for example) are homogenous in every sense of the word where 99.9% of the population is of one ethnic origin.

Compare this to Canada
British Isles origin 28%, French origin 23%, other European 15%, Amerindian 2%, other, mostly Asian, African, Arab 6%, mixed background 26%

26% of mixed decent, plus 6% of clear visible minorities.

The United States

white 83.5%, black 12.4%, Asian 3.3%, Amerindian 0.8% (1992)

note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (especially of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)

[d_dudy]

Originally posted by dexters


We do A recent poll showed 80% of Canadians wouldn't mind joining the United States.

So if this was a game of Civilization, I'd say we're a few turns away from being swallowed up by American culture

The only problem is, you'll have to find room for 13 new stars on your flag. As Canada has 10 provinces and 3 territories.

80%, that's hard to believe. i like you, but i wouldn't let you in, you're too left and you'd swing us over the left democrats. plus we'd have to make all our signs in french too.

the time for joining us would have been during the revolution



btw, we don't count territories on our flag

[dexters]

Originally posted by d_dudy


80%, that's hard to believe. i like you, but i wouldn't let you in, you're too left and you'd swing us over the left democrats. plus we'd have to make all our signs in french too.

the time for joining us would have been during the revolution



btw, we don't count territories on our flag

Fine. 10 stars.

As for being too left, you American red necks are too rednecklike

But yea, we have a lot in common and we could use your dollars. Besides, we own you!