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  • #16
    Originally posted by faded glory
    btw- Was Gibraltor taken by force or what? Seems to me that during World War 2 all it would of taken was a thousand spanish or Italian troops to take it. Then the British Empire would be cut from supplys from India and middle east.
    Well, given that the spanish were neutral, the Italians had lost their fleet at Taranto and the British were basically unchallenged on the surface, it would have been a difficult proposal to actually get the troops there in one piece.

    IIRC Gibraltar was taken by force by the British from the Spanish either during or just before the Napoleonic wars.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny
      Because we stole it from them?
      1) Tough on them.

      2) The treaty of Utrecht clearly states that it belongs to the British for ever.

      3) In the last referendum only 44 people voted to rejoin Spain.

      4) Gibraltar has been British territory for 300 years, it was Spanish for only 250 years
      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by KrazyHorse


        Well, given that the spanish were neutral, the Italians had lost their fleet at Taranto and the British were basically unchallenged on the surface, it would have been a difficult proposal to actually get the troops there in one piece.

        IIRC Gibraltar was taken by force by the British from the Spanish either during or just before the Napoleonic wars.
        IIRC, Gibraltar was taken during one of the wars during the run-up to the American Revolution.
        Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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        • #19
          It was taken in 1704.

          The treaty handing it over was signed in 1713.
          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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          • #20
            Like I said "or just before". What's 80 years or so between friends?
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #21
              I don;t think the EU would care less to which one Gilbratar belonged.

              Point is to eliminate it as a tax heaven.

              Maybe the spanish have been more co-operative in this pursuit and the Brits want it to remain as a tax heaven?

              The OECD report specifically mentions Gilbratar as a tx heaven aminsgt 26 other territories and countries I think.

              It is an anomaly in the unified market. Plus with the terrorism issues the international community has become very determined in supervising and if possible eliminating tax heavens.

              Punisitve actions will be taken in 2003 if northing's changed.

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              • #22
                Bad news. It should stay British.
                Rome rules

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Roman
                  Bad news. It should stay British.
                  No it shouldn't.

                  It belongs with the rightful owners.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Giancarlo


                    No it shouldn't.

                    It belongs with the rightful owners.
                    Enlighten me...what makes Spain the rightful owners?
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Caligastia


                      Enlighten me...what makes Spain the rightful owners?
                      Because I say so.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Giancarlo


                        Because I say so.
                        Ah! Well thats that cleared up then!
                        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                        • #27
                          I agree with Big Crunch.

                          @ Giancarlo
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                          • #28
                            Well, given that the spanish were neutral, the Italians had lost their fleet at Taranto and the British were basically unchallenged on the surface, it would have been a difficult proposal to actually get the troops there in one piece.
                            What? Give a few bucks to spain.....drop a few thousand paratroops in. Place a few 88.mm's on that rock and on the other side in Algiera....By by British navy passing thru. What...its only (10-20 miles) so wide? You can see the other side...

                            Back to the point. Gian the people are British. I dont think they'de appreciate being governed by Spaniards. I think autonomy is a better option...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by faded glory
                              Back to the point. Gian the people are British. I dont think they'de appreciate being governed by Spaniards. I think autonomy is a better option...
                              Sure... autonomy under the Spanish.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #30
                                I don't know why it concerns you so much Giancarlo, after all, you are Argentinian.
                                Speaking of Erith:

                                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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