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Ramo, did you Orange? (change views?) Did you used to be not free enterprise?
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Ramo, I sort of 'assumed'
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I agree. But under capitalism, wealth disparities are far greater than in under socialism. I meant to add the qualifer "great."Ah but such wealth disparites and authority, as you put it, is simply economic equilibrium...it's to be expected when natural rights are respected, some people will inevitably be richer
That's the ineherent problem with libertarian capitalism. Great wealth disparities lead to the abuse of state power. Libertarian capitalism is a logical contradiction.and "more powerful" so to speak, and as long as said power does not intrude on personal rights, then it's fine."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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State power has nothing to do with it. In a perfect LibCap system, teh State has virtually no power, unlike in your usual Socialist system.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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What's my "usual socialist system?"
It doesn't matter whether your "perfect" LibCap gov't doesn't have power. The state will grow with the wealth disparities. You're going against the current of history itself.
Before I was an anarchist, sure.Ramo, did you Orange? (change views?) Did you used to be not free enterprise?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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cp"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Ramo, it sounds like you're starting to use the "historical dialectic" in your argument
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Seriously, you look at societies with small wealth disparities - hunter-gatherer communities or early North US (besides the really big cities), for example, and you see very weak governments. There's an amazing coorelation between wealth disparities and state power throughout history."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Libertarian: I'm VERY tempted to think your a DL of a poster here named Giant Squid, as that's just too coincidental for you to have already posted about giant squids, in whatever context. . . but we'll see.
Berzerker: yes, i was at one time a libertarian christian, but have dropped the christian part.
GP: promised girls
heh. it gets crazier than that, recently. lol
oh, but anyway, yes, if your NOT a GSDL then welcome to the boards and all that.
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"We're losing the war on AIDS. And drugs. And poverty. And terror. But we sure took it to those Nazis. Man, those were the days."
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Of course, I'd argue that the current wealth disparity is caused by big government, not the other way around...the War on Poverty, by LBJ's huge federal government, and FDR's New Deal, with his huge federal government, etc., have all created more wealth disparity, especially the War on Poverty and Great Society and the whole welfare state idea.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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I don't have any stats with me, so I don't know if I would agree with you about that (doesn't seem too intuitive anyways).
But the New Deal, Great Society, etc. are perfect examples of huge wealth disparities leading to greater state power."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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There were wealth disparities before each, but especially in the case of the Great Society government intervention led to greater disparities, not the other way around.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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1. That seems like a rather simplistic analysis for a model as complex as a national economy. I wouldn't be convinced by such an argument by only a few numbers.There were wealth disparities before each, but especially in the case of the Great Society government intervention led to greater disparities, not the other way around.
2. But it is the other way around! What was the Great Society designed to do? Relieve problems due to the great wealth disparity in the US. The Great Society simply wouldn't have happened if the poverty level wasn't so bad. End poverty, and you destroy the state."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Maybe, but poverty is inevitable, especially in any reasonably industrialized economy. I would submit that the lack of industry had a lot to do with wealth disparity hundreds of years ago...everyone was a farmers for Christ's sake!
And besides, you wanna see poverty? Go to a communist nation like Stalinist Russia or Maoist China...
Oh, and if my argument is a rather simple analysis, then so is yours - they are pretty close in structure. I'm saying that big government led to a wealth disparity and you are saying a wealth disparity led to big government. It's the same damn argument flipped around.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Connor...play it smart. Just cause you're in some glorified hotel for the next year...you're still in the Army. Didn't ask. Don't tell...Originally posted by connorkimbro
Libertarian: I'm VERY tempted to think your a DL of a poster here named Giant Squid, as that's just too coincidental for you to have already posted about giant squids, in whatever context. . . but we'll see.
Berzerker: yes, i was at one time a libertarian christian, but have dropped the christian part.
GP: promised girls heh. it gets crazier than that, recently. lol
oh, but anyway, yes, if your NOT a GSDL then welcome to the boards and all that.
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