Arnie's Austrian citizenship to be terminated?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
OK, some corrections.
@Oerdin and Patroklos: What do you mean the "left of center Austrian PM"""disagreement with his government"? Please, read an article before commenting. We have a conservative government and the proposal came from an oppositional Green politican.

The green party is a left of center party and Plaz is a MP in it. I meant MP as in member of parliment but I typed PM.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Atahualpa


Shows once more that the US is nothing but reactionary.

Eurosnobs might want to think twice about foreign criticism helping a US politician. Schroeder didn't even need to invite criticism, he was able to get re-elected pure on slamming the US.

[Winston]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The SA was destroyed in 1936. Waldheim was a leading officer in a unit that deported Greek (maybe Yugoslavian, maybe both) Jews to a death camp.

Leading officer... I heard he was a translator after serving in the SA.

My main reason for posting however was to point out that he wasn't in the SS, and also that he wasn't Prime Minister later on.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Let me get this straight. Murders and rapists never have people calling for them to lose their citizenship but you do want elected politicians who carry out the duties of their office to lose their citizenship? That doesn't make sense at all.

Why, yes. In my book, government-sanctioned murder ranks higher than murder on personal grounds. In one case one man takes another man's life, in the other an entire society participates in the act.

But either way, yes, people with a double nationality *have* been stripped of one of their nationalities in the past, and although I usually see it as moving the problem elsewhere rather than solving it, it can certainly happen if there's a legal framework for it (as is the case in Austia).

Stripping someone of his only nationality is a different matter though (there are international treaties dealing with that), but that's not the case here.

[Dis]

old europe

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kamrat X
I´d say his films do more damage to Austria them his actions as a governor... But how come you only hear about Austria when it´s in connection with some right-wing nut? I mean Adolf Hitler, Jörg Haider and whatshisname the former prime minister that was some hotshot in the SS?

don't be badmouthing his films dammit!

well maybe his later films. He is a quality actor who has made many fine movies.

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Oerdin


I hear the greens are so worked up over this that they've started a petetion drive to rename the sports stadium named after Arnie.

Yes, I don't know what that should help...
Anyway in a month this will be forgotten again.

Eurosnobs might want to think twice about foreign criticism helping a US politician. Schroeder didn't even need to invite criticism, he was able to get re-elected pure on slamming the US.

Schröder was reelected, because his opponent was the Bavarian PM (Edmund Stoiber) and everybody in Germany hates Bavarians and especially Stoiber.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Locutus
The death penalty is an absolutely barbaric practice that doesn't befit any remotely civilized country -- such as Austria. Taking away Ahnold's citizenship would of course merely be a symbolic gesture, but it would be a signal of intent

you guys just don't understand how bad crime is here in the U.S. I don't think none of you are qualified to say whether we should have the death penalty or not.

You guys would probably just cower in fear if you were in cities such as Detroit or south central LA.

[Atahualpa]

So you take the high crime rate to judge the need for DP to reduce it?
Ummm for how long has the DP been in effect now?

You guys would probably just cower in fear if you were in cities such as Detroit or south central LA.

I'm pretty sure I would. But what does that say?
How many people from Detroit get executed? Or from south central LA?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think I need to make my support known again:

Arnold
Austrian Green Party politicians who have more than a few brain cells missing

[Atahualpa]

thumb down for both

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
So you take the high crime rate to judge the need for DP to reduce it?
Ummm for how long has the DP been in effect now?



I'm pretty sure I would. But what does that say?
How many people from Detroit get executed? Or from south central LA?

Few, if any. Notice however that Texas has 3 cities in the top 20 safest cites:
safest US cities

Something to think about.

ACK!

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Dissident
you guys just don't understand how bad crime is here in the U.S. I don't think none of you are qualified to say whether we should have the death penalty or not.

So in response to all the murders you're gonna murder people yourself? Yeah, that's real civilized

[Dis]

Originally posted by Locutus


So in response to all the murders you're gonna murder people yourself? Yeah, that's real civilized

how is putting them in a cage like animals any more civilized?

you can't just let criminals go free. They must be punished. I support the death penalty, but not the system the U.S. currently uses. Far too likely for an innocent man to be put to death. Esp. if they are a minority.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Dissident
how is putting them in a cage like animals any more civilized?

You're right, in the US the treatment of prisoners is abysmal (not that the situation in Europe is perfect). But that's not an excuse to start murdering them.