Australian Gitmo inmate to be released

[notyoueither]

Incidently, old man Khadar died in a shoot out with Pakistani police. His youngest son was on the scene and was shot in the spine. There was some outrage among the Khadr's when Canadians expressed anger at mom Khadar and young, shot, son returning here for free healthcare.

This is really ****ed up.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Sikander


Then we should apologize, drop him on a battlefield and blast him.

Or, you could go a step further as the Macedonian Government did, shoot some illegal immigrants from Pakistan, dress their coprses up as "terrorists" and film the bodies to curry favour with the USA.

[notyoueither]

Yep. There's absolutely no possibility that someone looking for 'traditional' education in Pakistan could ever be any threat to US or Austrailian security. Nope. None at all.

Wanna bet this loon gets his own detail on return to down under?

[Dinner]

Generally it is not nice to hold people without a trail but I can't think of a single example of an unlawful combatant recieving a nonmilitary trail in the history of the world. Traditionally, if you were a combatant who was caught not wearing a military uniform then you were simply shot as a spy or sabateur.

[notyoueither]

That's about right.

[notyoueither]

But these guys were picked up in Pakistan, not Afghanistan.

[Dinner]

Some were picked up in Pakistan, yes. The Al Qaeda family you linked to was involved in a shoot out with the Pakistani military if I am not mistaken.

That sounds like being a combatant to me.

[notyoueither]

it's a truely ****ed up situation. We have a famliy claiming Canadian citizenship after a shoot out with Pakistani police.

The mother and a 14 year-old boy with a serious wound are expeditted back to Canada.That required issuing of emergency papers. What happened to their original Canadian passports, btw?

Then other sons turn up and tune us into what the family is all about, as if the mother telling the CBC that she did not want her sons to grow up in the West because she did not want them to become homosexuals was not enough.

My question would be what is protecting the wounded youngest one from being turned gay by the lurking Ashers?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Some were picked up in Pakistan, yes. The Al Qaeda family you linked to was involved in a shoot out with the Pakistani military if I am not mistaken.

That sounds like being a combatant to me.

By that measure, Timothy McVeigh(sp) was a combatant, and not simply a not so common criminal.

[Dinner]

That's an interesting point, however, I think there is a critical difference. Islamic militants form a realistic, wide spread, and creditable threat to the existance of the Pakistani state while two nutters in Oklahoma didn't. Islamists have dedicated themselves to armed insurection in Pakistan (and other places) and they have assassinated or attempted to assassinate numerous government officials.

In short Pakistan could realistically describe the Islamists as rebels in a civil war while the same cannot be said of McVeigh.

[notyoueither]

I think McVeigh (or his friends) would have described themselves more closely to the rebels in a civil war than you would wish.

Basic point is they were not apprehended in a war zone, unless the GoPakistan has radically changed their position. So execution of combatants out of uniform does not apply, yes?

[notyoueither]

Of course, it does to those grabbed in Afghanistan and now in Iraq. Do the GC fanatics realise this?

[Whaleboy]

Generally it is not nice to hold people without a trail but I can't think of a single example of an unlawful combatant recieving a nonmilitary trail in the history of the world. Traditionally, if you were a combatant who was caught not wearing a military uniform then you were simply shot as a spy or sabateur.

I can't think of any situation like this because "unlawful combatants" (or those alleged to be which still hasn't been established) are supposed to receive a preliminary hearing which hasn't happened .

[Theben]

I don't suppose it's possible to imprison people without the torture, since we don't get much intel from them anyways? Just a thought.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Of course, it does to those grabbed in Afghanistan and now in Iraq. Do the GC fanatics realise this?

Depending on the individual case,yes.