Australian Gitmo inmate to be released

[Whaleboy]

EDIT: on further reading

The failure to guarantee the rights enumerated above may itself constitute a war crime. Indeed, if this failure amounts to willfully depriving a POW or a protected person of the rights of a fair and regular trial “prescribed in the present Convention,” the person(s) responsible for such failure will have committed a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. [22]

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I like this one better than lame wikpedia articles: http://asil.org/insights/insigh81.htm

I think this one is a little better:

http://www.genevaconventions.org/

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
No bias there at all no?

I don't like wikpedia. It's a secondary resource at best. I'm quite open about that.

[Whaleboy]

I don't like wikpedia. It's a secondary resource at best. I'm quite open about that.

Ok fair enough, but I don't think it's erroneous in the sense that I've used it... IOW it's still a useful resource for the references I've provided.

However yours is nice for the specific titbits

[Alexander's Horse]

I'm surprised at the number of people who think torture and mistreatment of these prisoners is okay.

I put it down to fear, racism, vengeance, the "it can't happen to me" attitude and a vote for Bush.

Its ugly out there people. There will be retribution, most of it directed against US troops in Iraq right now.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I'm surprised at the number of people who think torture and mistreatment of these prisoners is okay.

I put it down to fear, racism, vengeance, the "it can't happen to me" attitude and a vote for Bush.

Its ugly out there people. There will be retribution, most of it directed against US troops in Iraq right now.

[DinoDoc]

I'm surprised at the number of people who think torture and mistreatment of these prisoners is okay.

It'd be okay if it actually produced anything useful. But since it doesn't...

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse

The guy was a cleaner for Christ's sake - father of 4 children. He was known in Australian muslim circles as a bit of a blather mouth and nutter. But no real threat.

Which sounds like the description of about half of the people who become terrorists in the west.

[Sikander]

I've said repeatedly that I prefer that they be killed on the battlefield. They don't take prisoners either.

[Alexander's Horse]

But he wasn't found on a battlefield...a large proportion of the Gitmo inmates were picked up by Police in various countries....

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


He had Australian citizenship too and his case got publicised. He was only ever "on loan" to the Egyptians for interrogation.

The guy was a cleaner for Christ's sake - father of 4 children. He was known in Australian muslim circles as a bit of a blather mouth and nutter. But no real threat.

And someone who was looking for 'traditional' education for his kids. Yep, no harm here. Look away.

[Alexander's Horse]

I have a feeling at some point many of you will suffer for what is being done in your name - so laugh it up boys.

But hopefully I'll be wrong about that.

[Winston]

If your past record is anything to go by, those are not the worst odds one could have.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
But he wasn't found on a battlefield...a large proportion of the Gitmo inmates were picked up by Police in various countries....

Then we should apologize, drop him on a battlefield and blast him.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I have a feeling at some point many of you will suffer for what is being done in your name - so laugh it up boys.

But hopefully I'll be wrong about that.

Let me aquaint you with the Khadrs.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/03/04/canada/khadr_040304

'We are an al-Qaeda family': Khadr son
Last Updated Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:26:12
TORONTO - A Canadian who was released from Guantanamo Bay in October says he lied about his family's ties with al-Qaeda and that he was trained to become a suicide bomber.


THE NATIONAL DOCUMENTARY: The Khadrs

In a documentary aired Wednesday on CBC's The National, Abdurahman Khadr said his father was old friends with al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and that his brothers attended terrorist training camps.


Abdurahman Khadr (file photo)

"Until now, everybody says we are an al-Qaeda-connected family but when I say this, just by me saying it, I just admitted we are an al-Qaeda family. We had connections to al-Qaeda," said Abdurahman Khadr.

The family has always disputed claims that its patriarch, Ahmed Said Khadr, was a senior al-Qaeda operative and fundraiser, saying he collected money for charities. He was killed in Pakistan in October 2003.

Abdurahman Khadr says he was sent to Afghanistan by his father "to become an al-Qaeda, was raised to become a suicide bomber, was raised to become a bad person."

In 2001, Abdurahman was captured in Afghanistan and held at the U.S. military detention compound at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He was freed last fall after agreeing to co-operate with U.S. authorities, he says.

Another brother, Omar Khadr, is believed to be in the same prison.

Abdurahman's mother, Maha, and sister, Zaynab, say the family supported the al-Qaeda cause, but insist it was never an accepted part of the terrorist organization. They say that Ahmed Said Khadr was proud to die as a shaheed, a soldier of Islam.

"We believe that death comes when God had planned it, before He created the humanity, it's planned, so I just accept, [but] it hurt," said Maha.

"We believe dying by the hand of your enemy because you believe in…you're doing it in the way of Allah, that it's the best way to die," said Zaynab.