Megan's Law

[Whaleboy]

You are saying I child murderer, or abusive parent, should face less scrutiny than a child molestor for some archane reason.

A sick perversion of the virgin bride complex?

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by GePap


The issue is why sex crimes need addition restrictions not placed on any other crime- You are saying I child murderer, or abusive parent, should face less scrutiny than a child molestor for some archane reason.

yes

did you miss my post?

there is scientific evidence that peadophilia cannot be fixed in adults

so while most people would not be child molesters

those that have been, are likely to be again in the future (and unlike the rest of us, must fight themselves to not be)

this is an important distinction, and I think is one that should result in different actions by the government

especially since being molested while young seems to be a main way to become a molester while older

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

I am not aware of abusive parents not being rehabilitateable

and the same with murderers (although, if they murder for no reason, than I can't really see how to rehabilitate)

JM

[Whaleboy]

JM: There will undoubtably be people whom cannot be rehab'd and are a risk, of that I am not calling into doubt but that is why they shouldn't be released. I should like to add that I would prefer them also to be studied in order to gain a greater understanding of their conditions in order to nip it in the bud so to speak in future cases.

[Sprayber]

I'm not really an expert on this matter but one question I would like to ask is there really such a thing as an EX-Child molester. Sorry if it's already been dealth with in the thread. I really didnt want to read through it all

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
JM: There will undoubtably be people whom cannot be rehab'd and are a risk, of that I am not calling into doubt but that is why they shouldn't be released. I should like to add that I would prefer them also to be studied in order to gain a greater understanding of their conditions in order to nip it in the bud so to speak in future cases.

That is not what I am saying. I am saying that scientific evidence (as in repeated studies) show that it cannot be changed for adults. Not for some adults, and this isn't just some hypothesis based upon logic.

Now I didn't read it out of the journal myself, so I might not understand something (not my area of interest).

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Sprayber
I'm not really an expert on this matter but one question I would like to ask is there really such a thing as an EX-Child molester. Sorry if it's already been dealth with in the thread. I really didnt want to read through it all

That is what I am saying. Among adults, the answer is no (if you mean by child molester someone who wants to molest children).

Jon Miller

[Whaleboy]

JM: Not mine either but I haven't read on anything about whether or not they can be rehab'd so i'm not qualified to talk about it, so until I hear anything contrary I'll concur with you. To me though, it doesn't represent evidence in favour of Megans law, rather keeping them lockedup or sectioned for life.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


That is what I am saying. Among adults, the answer is no (if you mean by child molester someone who wants to molest children).

Jon Miller

And thus, if this is concluded, then Child molestors should be imprisoned, either in a prison, or in a state mental instutition, for life. That is the fitting punishment, NOT Megan's Law type actions.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by GePap


And thus, if this is concluded, then Child molestors should be imprisoned, either in a prison, or in a state mental instutition, for life. That is the fitting punishment, NOT Megan's Law type actions.

But it sounds so unAmerican.

After all, in some states you execute the retarded and treat teenagers as adults, so good heavens, man, let's get Sparky or the juice injectors working, and weed out those potential real estate devaluers.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by GePap


And thus, if this is concluded, then Child molestors should be imprisoned, either in a prison, or in a state mental instutition, for life. That is the fitting punishment, NOT Megan's Law type actions.

But we do not punish based upon thoughts, but on actions.

So while I might agree on the mental instution bit, I disagree on prison or death.

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by molly bloom


But it sounds so unAmerican.

After all, in some states you execute the retarded and treat teenagers as adults, so good heavens, man, let's get Sparky or the juice injectors working, and weed out those potential real estate devaluers.

We don't execute every retarded. It is just that for some crimes, we punish even though the person is retarded (doesn't mean that they don't know wrong from right).

And what is wrong with treating teenagers as adults, if they do adult activities? If teenagers shouldn't be treated like adults ever, than we really need to do something about the sex, drugs and other adult behavior that goes on.

Jon Miller

[GePap]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


But we do not punish based upon thoughts, but on actions.

So while I might agree on the mental instution bit, I disagree on prison or death.

Jon Miller

Being forced to stay in a mental instutition for life is a form of punishment for people who are able to tell right from wrong.

[Jon Miller]

Well, I didn't claim that there was scientific research that they couldn't tell right from wrong.

So I am back to the position that ok, allow them to go free, but give them a mark to allow others to know that they are child molesters.

Jon Miller

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by GePap


And thus, if this is concluded, then Child molestors should be imprisoned, either in a prison, or in a state mental instutition, for life. That is the fitting punishment, NOT Megan's Law type actions.

Good idea. Until we can effect that change in the law, however, we should be thankful that Megan's Law is in place to aid us in the protection of our children.