Biggest earthquake in 40 years hits Southeast Asia

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


I'm not flaming, you are getting it all wrong.

I'm glad if I am. So carry on.

[Alexander's Horse]

spare a thought for Burma - little or nothing has been heard of the suffering there and their government is too proud to ask for help.

[Pekka]

People should stop being hypocrites. Swedes are the single largest group of people there, naturally after the locals. So Chemical Ollie being a Swede, he might be little closer to it than most of us. Potentially very similar situation to 9/11 in loss of human lives for Swedes. So I guess most of us *****ing about some comments IS over reacting if some other comments makes our panties on a twist. They won't make us hear about it in every media for the next 10 years, so how about some ****ing respect?


... it's kind of surrealistic in a way to go through a list.. I just went through a list of our MIAs, if there were anyone I knew. Fortunately, none so far. Except one singer, Aki Sirkesalo.

[Ari Rahikkala]

Originally posted by Pekka
Aki Sirkesalo.

Must... resist... temptation... to... joke about something... good... coming out of this...

[Pekka]

You know I almost wrote that I KNOW the joke coming out of that one and it's not appreciated................ so resist!

[Chemical Ollie]

The Swedish government has issued an order that all Swedish tourists must leave the area, even those who are there to find out the faith of their family members. While they can't legally force them to leave, they can refuse to give them help.

The government has also turned down an offer from 50 funeral agencies who wanted to go down there and assist. Funeral agencies are experienced in the hard work of taking care of corpses and support griefing families. Both services are urgently needed, but the government does not want them.

But what makes most people angry is the fact that it took the government 3 days to react, even though the traveling agencies asked for help on day one.

I guess some political heads will roll.

[Pekka]

As they should.

In here few political heads should roll as well. Most of all our POS minister Tuominoja.... he has done nothing in his career except screw things up. Now he's doing it again. Late response of course like with you guys, and he claimed things like this 'No Finns in Phuket are in danger' early on. Excuse me?! Just turn on BBC and see it yourself! It's lkie the Iraqi dude saying murricans are not here.

Then he goes about stating that Khao Lak is OK, no one in danger in there. But our former minister and future presidential candidate and the VP of euro bank Niinistö was in there, hanging on a pole for his life with his sons. He was, as expected, pretty pissed off about this statement. THe reason why he made it: 'no one had called us saying there's a problem in there too'. What a ****ing idiot this guy is. He should be stoned.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by Pekka
In here few political heads should roll as well. Most of all our POS minister Tuominoja.... he has done nothing in his career except screw things up. Now he's doing it again.

Couldn't agree more.

[Giancarlo]

Pekka, this was a natural incident not caused by terrorists. Additionally, there are 3,000 Americans tourists missing in this too.

As far as the Swedish government goes, I hope heads do roll because it just shows gross incompetence.

[alva]

Swedes are the single largest group of people there, naturally after the locals. So Chemical Ollie being a Swede, he might be little closer to it than most of us.

I'm sorry but what exactly makes this different unless there are friends/relatives involved.
A lot of human beings died, that's all that matters and it should hurt all of us equally.
Why should I care more about what happened to any Belgians involved compared to any other nation? ( again, I'm not accounting for the fact that you/I might personally know a fellow country man out there)

[Giancarlo]

114,000 are now reported dead. THis has taken a turn to the worst that I was fearing. I was hoping the death toll would stop rising but this keeps getting worse and worse. Indonesia itself reports 80,000 dead.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041230/ap_on_re_as/tsunami

BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - The death toll from last weekend's earthquake-tsunami catastrophe rose to more than 114,000 on Thursday as Indonesia uncovered more and more dead from ravaged Sumatra island, where pilots dropped food to remote villages still unreached by rescue workers. A false alarm that new killer waves were about to hit sparked panic in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand.

[Pekka]

alva, exactly. Can't you just shut up? Do you have to start arguing about meaningless stuff?

Gian, no my point was, when 9/11 happened, it was to be expected that people on the internet will post a lot, and people who are not affected by it should hold their tounge a bit for few days more. That's waht I meant. I wasn't so much comparing these two incidents.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by alva

Swedes are the single largest group of people there, naturally after the locals. So Chemical Ollie being a Swede, he might be little closer to it than most of us.

I'm sorry but what exactly makes this different unless there are friends/relatives involved.

There are. At least 3 people I have close working relationships with are among the survivors. I just heard one of them lost her son.

[Pekka]

Yhum since most didn't apparently get what I was saying is with the whole 9/11 thing is that everything said and done right after that incident is supposed to be thought as messages in crisis. SO, people who are not so close to it should bite their tongue if they feel a bit insulted by some comments. Because it's the wrong time to start flame wars. THAT was my message. This is similar case. Lot of people close to it, so we must bite our tongues now if we feel a bit uncertain about some comments. And what does it make any difference that there are lot of swedes? Well, I tell you the difference it makes. Not everyone of us is internationalist euronites, OK? 100 000, million, 10 million casualties, it's a horrible thing. If people amongst the gone ones include 0 Finns, 1000 Finns or 10 000 Finns, IT MAKES THE WORLD OF DIFFERENCE to ME. And lot of other people too in that situation. And if someone feels it's a bit hypocrite, well they are the ones who must bite their toungue now for a while. Because those people make arguments, what good does it make now? Except coming off as an *******. That's just basic respect. I'm overwhelmed that I even have to explain this on this board.

[Giancarlo]

I still treat every loss as I would if Americans, Spanish or any other person would of died. Every one of the 114,000 confirmed dead is a human being.