Anti-Christian attitudes in the U.S.? Would Jesus use this much electricity?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
All right but the cops might not like it when you start violating the "Thou shalt not murder" commandment.

Right, because there is absolutely no secular, rational basis to otherwise prohibit murder as a crime.

[Arrian]

We've been over that ground already.

-Arrian

[Ned]

ACLU founded by a communist?

Given their anti-Christian agenda, I would almost believe this.

[Arrian]

Ned returns!

The ALCU is the boogieman for the Jesuslanders, I see.

-Arrian

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ned
The problem, Berz, is that the Second Amendment does not apply to the states.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;

[Ned]

Originally posted by Arrian


Ned returns!

The ALCU is the boogieman for the Jesuslanders, I see.

-Arrian

I live in Jesusland? Kalifornia?

[Ned]

Kuci, without getting into the Privileges and Immunities clause, I hardly think the Supremes would resort to this clause to protect Second Amendment rights. That Amendment was intended to protect the right of the States to raise militias. I would assume that the corollary is States have the right to ban militias in their own borders if they want. That is effectively what gun control laws do.

[Kuciwalker]

Kuci, without getting into the Privileges and Immunities clause, I hardly think the Supremes would resort to this clause to protect Second Amendment rights. That Amendment was intended to protect the right of the States to raise militias. I would assume that the corollary is States have the right to ban militias in their own borders if they want. That is effectively what gun control laws do.

Just because SCOTUS interprets the constitution a certain way doesn't mean it's the correct interpretation. I'm obviously arguing AGAINST their interpretation!

[Ned]

Kuci, the problem you have with your interpretation is that it flies in the face of historical facts. Only the most "liberal" of jurists would ignore the purpose for the Second Amendment in interpreting it as giving the people an unfettered right to bear arms against State action.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Ned


I live in Jesusland? Kalifornia?

It's a state of mind

-Arrian

[Ned]

Originally posted by Arrian


It's a state of mind

-Arrian

Arrian, well my own state is that of agnosticism, as I have often stated. You simply assume I am a Jesus freak because I defend religion.

[Arrian]

Actually, so does the ALCU.

I don't think the ALCU is a bunch of "Jesus Freaks."

You, while agnostic w/regard to belief in "God," certainly display dogmatic thinking here on these boards (Republicans are keepers of the TRUTH, Liberals are Socialists are Communists, Communists are behind everything, etc). Given that, in the context of this thread, I did forget your agnosticism.

-Arrian

[Ned]

Originally posted by Arrian
Actually, so does the ALCU.

I don't think the ALCU is a bunch of "Jesus Freaks."

You, while agnostic w/regard to belief in "God," certainly display dogmatic thinking here on these boards (Republicans are keepers of the TRUTH, Liberals are Socialists are Communists, Communists are behind everything, etc). Given that, in the context of this thread, I did forget your agnosticism.

-Arrian

Arrian, where have I said that Republicans are keepers of the TRUTH? That would require monolistic thinking. The Republicans are a party of the "big tent," where people of opposing views are welcome. Liberal Republicans like Schwarzenegger and me are part of the party as well as the likes of Bush and McCain.

In contrast, anyone who does not believe in the liberal orthodoxy seems to be ostracized in the Democrat Party. Abortion is a key example of what I mean. Name one prominent pro-life Democrat.

[Ned]

Arrian, the ACLU has a very extreme position on religion. It wants to ban Christianity from the public consistent with its views that the first amendment reads "separation of church and state" instead of what it actually reads.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Ned


Arrian, where have I said that Republicans are keepers of the TRUTH? That would require monolistic thinking. The Republicans are a party of the "big tent," where people of opposing views are welcome. Liberal Republicans like Schwarzenegger and me are part of the party as well as the likes of Bush and McCain.

In contrast, anyone who does not believe in the liberal orthodoxy seems to be ostracized in the Democrat Party. Abortion is a key example of what I mean. Name one prominent pro-life Democrat.

You JUST DID IT, and you don't even realize it (or you're playing dumb).

-Arrian