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  • #16
    In principle, yes, but in practice it just wouldn't be worth the cost of litigation. It's the same reason that mom and pop stores can generally get away with more in terms of discriminatory hiring practices and things along those lines than can a corporation with deep pockets -- few lawyers will jump at the chance to sue a company with a net worth of a few grand.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Q Cubed
      Still, fair is fair.

      If WMP is unbundled from Windows sold in Europe, they should have the balls to force iTunes from being bundled with OS X sold in Europe.
      No, because the ruling against Microsoft was based on the fact that they are abused their monopoly position (according to EU regulations). Apple doesn't have a monopoly position, let alone is abusing it.

      As long as you don't have a monopoly position, you're free to bundle as much as you want...

      (Not telling you how it should be, just how the rules work...)
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      • #18
        Oh, I'm well aware of the rules--no need to lecture me on them.

        I know the arguments as to why Apple gets to do all the **** Microsoft did and does, only Apple still gets hailed as OMFG T3H R0X0RZ instead.

        Fair is fair. Too bad that's not how things work. :shrugs:
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Q Cubed
          only Apple still gets hailed as OMFG T3H R0X0RZ instead.
          I think most of us know better than that, at least most of us who've actually had to work with Apple systems
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          • #20
            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
            That's stupid.
            Hey, that's what you get from liberal governments, .
            HAVE A DAY.
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            "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
            For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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            • #21
              The vengeful non-business side of me would be tempted to withdraw all Microsoft products from Europe and revoke its use from European customers (as they only license the software to begin with).


              Please....
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Asher
                The vengeful non-business side of me would be tempted to withdraw all Microsoft products from Europe and revoke its use from European customers (as they only license the software to begin with).

                The zealotic non-business side of me thinks this is a good idea .
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy


                  Hey, that's what you get from liberal governments, .
                  If the EU were a theocracy, they would have banned ungodly "computer" technology by now
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by loinburger
                    In principle, yes, but in practice it just wouldn't be worth the cost of litigation. It's the same reason that mom and pop stores can generally get away with more in terms of discriminatory hiring practices and things along those lines than can a corporation with deep pockets -- few lawyers will jump at the chance to sue a company with a net worth of a few grand.
                    You're exactly right.

                    Antitrust law is designed to make sure that smaller, less powerful companies with less money in their pockets have the oppurtunity to grow much larger, become richer and become more powerful, but it also is designed to make sure that large, rich and powerful companies don't become too large, rich and powerful.
                    HAVE A DAY.
                    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
                      Hey, that's what you get from liberal governments, .
                      Antitrust legislation is something liberal and conservative governments share. Every free market has anti-trust laws. Being "liberal" or "conservative" has little (if anything) to do about it.
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                      • #26
                        **** Microsoft.

                        The evil stupid crap you have to go through to get Greek working properly on Windows is a disgrace.
                        Only feebs vote.

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                        • #27
                          I expect Greek to be fairly easy to use in the Greek version of Windows
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Spiffor

                            Antitrust legislation is something liberal and conservative governments share. Every free market has anti-trust laws. Being "liberal" or "conservative" has little (if anything) to do about it.
                            Well, you know here in America it's the liberals that care the most about antitrust issues, while conservatives care little about them.

                            There are exceptions, however. I am one of them. I am an American conservative that actually cares about antitrust issues.

                            The EU on the other hand, I know is very liberal.
                            HAVE A DAY.
                            <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                            "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                            For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                            • #29
                              I expect Greek to be fairly easy to use in the Greek version of Windows


                              I wasn't aware that there was a Classical Greek version of Windows.

                              Polytonic Greek in Windows is a pain in the ass. The instructions for getting it to work are ridiculous.

                              In contrast: Greek on OS X.

                              1. Find Greek Keyboard you like.
                              2. Put it in the "Keyboards Folder.
                              3. Click the Flag icon in the menubar and add the new keyboard to your list.
                              4. Start typing.
                              Only feebs vote.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
                                The EU on the other hand, I know is very liberal.
                                True, the european competition policy is very much for liberty and freedom to compete.

                                Why are you against liberty?
                                19th Century Liberal, 21st Century European

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