Breaking News: Bush Personally Authorized Torture

[GePap]

I think Doc is sadly correct- most people don;t care about torture of people they label criminals or enemies from the start. Now, the diplomatic and international political ramifications, while small, are going to be bigger than the domestic ones.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, sadly most Americans don't realize what a freaking good recruiting tool it was for Al Queda showing the prisoners at Abu Ghirab with hoods on and being forced to do some horrible things.

[MalevolentLight]

Probably about as good of a recruiting tool as showing prisoners with hoods on their heads and then their heads being chopped off. But then again, you're a dirty disgusting muslim Imram and you portray the typical muslim perfectly. That is why your disgusting religion will someday be wiped from the face of the Earth because eventually there will come a day when the practices of muslims will no longer be tolerated.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, sadly most Americans don't realize what a freaking good recruiting tool it was for Al Queda showing the prisoners at Abu Ghirab with hoods on and being forced to do some horrible things.

Totally.

It was actually a very informed thing what they did (the American soldiers). It was no accident that they happened to violate every cultural norm and sensibility in what they did. I've read some reports that they actually got most of their ideas from an ethnography written by an anthropologist in the 1970s regarding Arab taboos. And the fact that it was so informed the way it was carried out makes it pretty much certain that it was a decision from higher ups... not just some "bad soldiers".

Just another instance of Anthropology used for evil.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight
Probably about as good of a recruiting tool as showing prisoners with hoods on their heads and then their heads being chopped off. But then again, you're a dirty disgusting muslim Imram and you portray the typical muslim perfectly. That is why your disgusting religion will someday be wiped from the face of the Earth because eventually there will come a day when the practices of muslims will no longer be tolerated.

Edit: Ming, this has got to be grounds for a ban.

[PLATO]

I am greatly amused by those that think that having a hood placed over your head, or being put in a quiet dark room, or forced to stand for four or five hours is torture.

[MalevolentLight]

Jimmy you characterize liberals perfectly...whinning to a higher power like the government or a moderator when you don't like what's being said. Kind of like political corectness but only it's on a computer. Weak people like you make me sick.

[GePap]

Then why have courts called it torture?

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by PLATO
I am greatly amused by those that think that having a hood placed over your head, or being put in a quiet dark room, or forced to stand for four or five hours is torture.

Because it is... at least legally speaking.

Besides, Plato, there is more to this than just breaking the law or not. The whole reason we have rules like this, with international treaties that we signed, is to prevent it from happening to our soldiers too.

What kind of moral authority does the US have to denounce beheadings when we engage our POWs in sexual torture and other kinds of inhumane treatment?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by PLATO
I am greatly amused by those that think that having a hood placed over your head, or being put in a quiet dark room, or forced to stand for four or five hours is torture.

The combination of many elements like these, on a systematic basis, is torture.

If you add up sleep deprivation, forced standing, psychological humiliation, lack of contact with the outer world, etc, for monthes, it is actual torture. It is btw what the Soviets inflicted to their political prisoners.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Would you want to be subjected to some of that?

Would you want to be put in a jail cell?

Do you want to pay taxes?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Damn, Spiffor, throwing down the gauntlet! Saying it was just like what the Soviets did (and they did). Very well done .

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Would you want to be put in a jail cell?

Do you want to pay taxes?

Hmmm... somehow paying taxes and having a broom handle shoved up your rectum isn't quite the same. Or being subjugated to sensory deprivation for days on end...

[Kuciwalker]

Uh, JCC, read what I was replying to before trying to make smartass remarks.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Uh, JCC, read what I was replying to before trying to make smartass remarks.

You were replying to UR who was replying to Shi's post saying what is being reported isn't torture. Please enlighten me if this isn't the case.