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  • I do have to say, they somehow manage to win, I'm still not sure how they win, but they do it.


    The magic of Michael Vick . For all talk about his overratedness, the team plays amazingly better with him than without (look at last year when he was hurt and compare it with the 2002 playoff year and this year where they will get a bye). The man wins.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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    • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      I do have to say, they somehow manage to win, I'm still not sure how they win, but they do it.


      The magic of Michael Vick . For all talk about his overratedness, the team plays amazingly better with him than without (look at last year when he was hurt and compare it with the 2002 playoff year and this year where they will get a bye). The man wins.
      I think he is overrated as a QB, not as a football player. He would be better served by an offense other than the West coast.

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      • I'd say he is only overrated as a QB if you look at a limited definition of what a QB should be . I agree that his talents are better suited for a more 'deep passing' offense. But the offensive line is such crap, I don't think they could block for a lot of 7 step drops.
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          I'd say he is only overrated as a QB if you look at a limited definition of what a QB should be . I agree that his talents are better suited for a more 'deep passing' offense. But the offensive line is such crap, I don't think they could block for a lot of 7 step drops.
          Limited definition?

          A QB throws the ball, that is his primary job, Vick could be better at it.

          He does everything else a QB is supposed to do pretty well.

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          • A QB throws the ball, that is his primary job, Vick could be better at it.


            I'll reiterate... limited definition. That is definetly not the definition of a QB for option teams in college.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              A QB throws the ball, that is his primary job, Vick could be better at it.


              I'll reiterate... limited definition. That is definetly not the definition of a QB for option teams in college.
              Ummmm, this is the NFL, not college.

              Option quarterbacks in college, if they make the pros, are WR or RB.

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              • Did anyone see Michael Irvin ripping on Todd Pinkston(or Stinkston) on Monday Night Countdown?

                He said the Eagles not only lost the best receiver in the NFL, they also have to start the worst receiver in the NFL.



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                • Miami is at least better than:

                  Cleveland
                  Tennessee
                  Oakland
                  NY Giants
                  Detroit
                  Chicago
                  Tampa Bay
                  New Orleans
                  Arizona
                  San Francisco

                  That's ten teams the Fins are better than. That puts Miami at low average.
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                  • I am going to laugh my head off if Arizona wins the NFC West at 7-9; here's how it breaks down:

                    Arizona plays Seattle & Tampa Bay

                    Seattle plays Arizona & Atlanta

                    St. Louis plays Philly & the Jets

                    It's conceivable that Arizona could win both their games (remember, they beat Seattle earlier this year) while Seattle & St. Louis drop theirs, giving the Cardinals the division title

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                    • That would be so ****ing awesome
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                      • My NFL power ranking going into the last two weeks:


                        1. Pittsburgh (13-1)
                        2. Philadelphia (13-1)
                        3. New England (12-2)
                        4. Indianapolis (11-3)
                        5. San Diego (11-3)
                        6. New York Jets (10-4)
                        7. Atlanta (11-3)
                        8. Buffalo (8-6)
                        9. Baltimore (8-6)
                        10. Jacksonville (8-6)
                        11. Green Bay (8-6)
                        12. Minnesota (8-6)
                        13. Denver (8-6)
                        14. Kansas City (6-8)
                        15. Seattle (7-7)
                        16. Carolina (7-7)
                        17. Cincinatti (6-8)
                        18. St. Louis (6-8)
                        19. New Orleans (6-8)
                        20. Detroit (5-9)
                        21. Washington (5-9)
                        22. Houston (5-9)
                        23. Dallas (5-9)
                        24. Tampa Bay (5-9)
                        25. Arizona (5-9)
                        26. Miami (3-11)
                        27. Oakland (5-9)
                        28. Chicago (5-9)
                        29. New York Giants (5-9)
                        30. Tennessee (4-10)
                        31. San Francisco (2-12)
                        32. Cleveland (3-11)
                        "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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                        • Originally posted by Tuberski
                          Did anyone see Michael Irvin ripping on Todd Pinkston(or Stinkston) on Monday Night Countdown?

                          He said the Eagles not only lost the best receiver in the NFL, they also have to start the worst receiver in the NFL.

                          Yup, I'm afraid the Eagles are royally screwed. Without T.O. to worry about, teams will be able to focus on Westbrook and McNabb. They'll probably make it to the NFC Championship and lose it for the fourth time in a row.
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                          • Originally posted by Stuie


                            Yup, I'm afraid the Eagles are royally screwed. Without T.O. to worry about, teams will be able to focus on Westbrook and McNabb. They'll probably make it to the NFC Championship and lose it for the fourth time in a row.
                            I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet. The NFC is full of teams with, at best, average pass defenses. Of the NFC playoff contenders, Eagles are the best and they are #14. STL is next at #15. Let's wait and see how McNabb and his receivers respond to their offense's new challenge on Monday night in STL before declaring a Super Bowl berth out of the question.

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                            • AJ Feeley

                              Product of the Philadelphia Eagles. I knew he had that kind of game in him...

                              I work with a lot of Steelers fans and they are all very happy this morning..

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                              • Uh, Jaguar, you have the NY Giants and the Tennessee Titans both ranked below the Bears.

                                You obviously have not been watching the Bears. The have the worst offense in the league by far, and Urlacher's out for the year, so their defense is performing well below its talent level.

                                Chicago is no better than #30.

                                Sure, I have quibbles with some of your other rankings, but this one is clearly wrong.
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