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  • The odds that he'll turn out to be half as good as Elway are slim.
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    • Why did Madden say that Steven Jackson isn't capable of being the back that Marshal Faulk was? That's bull. He almost has the same cutback speed and he's much stronger.
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      • I don't care if he gets the passing yards as Elway.

        But I'm saying a running QB needs to learn he has to pass more if they are going to go anywhere. I would cite McNabb as an example. Although perhaps not the best example because they haven't made it to the superbowl . But they've done better than Atlanta.

        When he gets 2 superbowl rings like Elway, then I'll be a believer. Actually if he makes it to the supebowl, I'll be a believer.

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        • Originally posted by Kidicious
          Why did Madden say that Steven Jackson isn't capable of being the back that Marshal Faulk was? That's bull. He almost has the same cutback speed and he's much stronger.
          Madden's a moron. I learned that when he called Troy Aikman the best player in the NFL. Yes this was at the height of his career, but he wouldn't have been **** without Emitt Smith's running game.

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          • Originally posted by Jaguar
            The odds that he'll turn out to be half as good as Elway are slim.
            What were the odds that Elway would have turned out as good as he did after that 24 year old, 2nd starting season?
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            • Originally posted by Kidicious
              Why did Madden say that Steven Jackson isn't capable of being the back that Marshal Faulk was? That's bull. He almost has the same cutback speed and he's much stronger.
              I believe he was talking about that Jackson isn't as good in the passing game. Faulk is as good as any #2 WR in the league when out for the pass. And he's great at pass blocking. So far, Jackson, while a great runner, isn't nearly as good in the passing game.
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              • Looks like Faulk got a concussion.
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                • Originally posted by Dissident
                  I would cite McNabb as an example.
                  GREAT example! Look at what happened to McNabb's passing numbers when Owens joined the team. He went from an above average QB (who had comparable career stats to Brad Johnson) to MEGA QB.

                  Atlanta has the crappiest recievers in the league, by FAR. They have a #2 playing as the #1 WR and the rest of their recievers are #3 wideouts at best (though maybe we'll give Jenkins a year or so to prove himself).

                  When an 11-4 team has the TE be its leading reciever with less than 50 catches, the WRs suck, badly.
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                  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    I believe he was talking about that Jackson isn't as good in the passing game. Faulk is as good as any #2 WR in the league when out for the pass. And he's great at pass blocking. So far, Jackson, while a great runner, isn't nearly as good in the passing game.
                    Yeah. That's probably what he meant. Jackson can catch too though.
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                    • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                      GREAT example! Look at what happened to McNabb's passing numbers when Owens joined the team. He went from an above average QB (who had comparable career stats to Brad Johnson) to MEGA QB.

                      Atlanta has the crappiest recievers in the league, by FAR. They have a #2 playing as the #1 WR and the rest of their recievers are #3 wideouts at best (though maybe we'll give Jenkins a year or so to prove himself).

                      When an 11-4 team has the TE be its leading reciever with less than 50 catches, the WRs suck, badly.
                      in this case I blame the team, not Vick.

                      The team should provide better wide recievers.

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                      • Originally posted by Dissident
                        in this case I blame the team, not Vick.

                        The team should provide better wide recievers.
                        While they are at it, can they also provide a better Offensive Line?

                        The O-Line is below average and they only look servicable because Vick can get out of trouble so much. Of course, Vick has been sacked the most of anyone in the league, showing you how bad that line really is.
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                        • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                          While they are at it, can they also provide a better Offensive Line?

                          The O-Line is below average and they only look servicable because Vick can get out of trouble so much. Of course, Vick has been sacked the most of anyone in the league, showing you how bad that line really is.
                          the o-line can't be that bad. They've had a good year running the football with an average running back at best.

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                          • Run blocking and pass blocking are two distinct skills.

                            And Dunn is a pretty good RB. He has a career, YPC of 4.1. Duckett is also is a good RB who doesn't get many carries.

                            It's a case of Thunder and Lightening (the real deal, not that failed experiment of the Giants with Barber and Dayne ) splitting the yards and TDs. If each was a clear cut #1, they'd easily break 1200 yards.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                            • Go Fresno Freakers! Looks like I win FF poly league 2 since McNabb didn't play much.
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                              • The Rams should have done better with an Eagles team that is just resting its players.
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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