Are You Ready for Some Football - Week 16

[Imran Siddiqui]

They either did purposely overwater the ground or they maltreated the ground. Both are as bad as eachother.

If they maltreated the ground then it wasn't the conspiracy you are trying to find .

What turnovers?

Have you or have you not been constantly refering to the TWO FUMBLES?

Because there was something on the line. What does a #3 receiver playing on a non-playoff team have to play for?

Baltimore in 2002 finished only 2 games out of the playoffs. And lost 2 out of their games after Stokley was out by less than 10 points. I'd say there was something on the line.

throughout the last 20 years or so the best teams have always had high turnover differentials.

And also either a high ranked offense or a high ranked defense . Marginalizing offense and defense performance to turnovers is silly.

[Frozzy]

Have you or have you not been constantly refering to the TWO FUMBLES?

In the New England game, yes. You diverted discussion to the Houston and Jacksonville games.

Baltimore in 2002 finished only 2 games out of the playoffs. And lost 2 out of their games after Stokley was out by less than 10 points. I'd say there was something on the line.

It's Baltimore... he's hardly going to be looked at a lot, is he. Even when he did get on the field he probably wasn't looked at much.

I'll have to check if he was put on IR or not.

And also either a high ranked offense or a high ranked defense . Marginalizing offense and defense performance to turnovers is silly.

Not really, because turnovers give you a free ticket to get more yards and hence a high ranked offense. A team which has a ot of yeards generally has a defense giving it turnovers and hence more oppurtunity to get more yards.

They go hand in hand, and hence another reason I think yards is a bad statistic for a good offense

If they maltreated the ground then it wasn't the conspiracy you are trying to find .

If they care for player safety they'll shut the roof. If they didn't, or they watered down the field, then they must have done it for a different reason (i.e. to slow down the other team and make the field fit their style)...

[Richelieu]

I'll bet Stokley played for the U of C...

[Imran Siddiqui]

In the New England game, yes. You diverted discussion to the Houston and Jacksonville games.

Well, against Jacksonville, Indy lost two fumbles in one game and Peyton had an INT in the other.

It's Baltimore... he's hardly going to be looked at a lot, is he. Even when he did get on the field he probably wasn't looked at much.

Every reciever in Baltimore matters. They have to pass sometimes and it isn't like their starters were that 'go-to'.

Not really, because turnovers give you a free ticket to get more yards and hence a high ranked offense. A team which has a ot of yeards generally has a defense giving it turnovers and hence more oppurtunity to get more yards.

You have really bassackwards. Turnovers give you a free ticket to more points, especially if it is close to your endzone. You still have to work for yards and turnovers, if anything, give you a smaller field, meaning you have less yards you can gain.

If they care for player safety they'll shut the roof. If they didn't, or they watered down the field, then they must have done it for a different reason (i.e. to slow down the other team and make the field fit their style)...

And with the propensity for sudden storms in the South, they should close the roof for every game? Have you ever been to the Southern US? Here in Atlanta we have clear sunny skies which out of nowhere erupt into pouring rain, which is done in 10 minutes and sun is out again.

[Frozzy]

Well, against Jacksonville, Indy lost two fumbles in one game and Peyton had an INT in the other.

Jacksonville had nothing to do with the New England game. You are seriously trying to divert discussion here. What do a couple of WR fumbles in the Jacksonville game have to do with James fumbling twice in the New England game? Not a lot, I assure you

Every reciever in Baltimore matters. They have to pass sometimes and it isn't like their starters were that 'go-to'.

But when your base formation doesn't call for 3 WRs, and Stokely is a slot receiver, he doesn't get looked at much because he's not on the field much.

You have really bassackwards. Turnovers give you a free ticket to more points, especially if it is close to your endzone. You still have to work for yards and turnovers, if anything, give you a smaller field, meaning you have less yards you can gain.

But if a team has 10 drives, they generally have more total yards than a team with 13 or 14, no?

And with the propensity for sudden storms in the South, they should close the roof for every game? Have you ever been to the Southern US? Here in Atlanta we have clear sunny skies which out of nowhere erupt into pouring rain, which is done in 10 minutes and sun is out again.

I know fully well about those type of climates, and the reason grounds get wet are because of consistent rain which has time to sink into the surface. When you get 10 minute rainfalls, it doesn't have time to soak in and linger around for a week. So if the water did linger around, it must have been a long shower which means they could have closed the roof. Otherwise in about 6 hours the ground is dry again and you'd have sworn there was no rain, especially in the heat common in those climates.

[-Jrabbit]

I can't believe you guys are still going at it.

[pchang]

This will go on until Indy loses in the play offs.

[Imran Siddiqui]

In the New England game, yes. You diverted discussion to the Houston and Jacksonville games.

Jacksonville had nothing to do with the New England game. You are seriously trying to divert discussion here.

We had 0 turnovers against Houston, and I believe 1 against Jacksonville in two games.

Res ipsa loquitor

But when your base formation doesn't call for 3 WRs, and Stokely is a slot receiver, he doesn't get looked at much because he's not on the field much.

He still is a factor in the offense. 3rd down and long? He is obviously used. After all, Bryan Westbook was just a 3rd down back a few years back when Staley was the feature back, but he was very important.

But if a team has 10 drives, they generally have more total yards than a team with 13 or 14, no?

Did you mean 'less' or 'more'? And it depends. Having more drives can mean more punts or quicker TDs.

When you get 10 minute rainfalls, it doesn't have time to soak in and linger around for a week.

A week? What about earlier that day? or the day before?

[Kidlicious]

Talk about the Rams! :doitnow:

[Imran Siddiqui]

Rams suck .

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Rams suck .

No they don't! They just have injuries this year! Now say more about them and shut up about all other teams!

[Richelieu]

The Bills would cream the Rams.

[Dis]

Originally posted by pchang
This will go on until Indy loses in the play offs.

or wins the superbowl

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kidicious
No they don't! They just have injuries this year! Now say more about them and shut up about all other teams!

Um... Rams suck more?

Bulger just isn't that great of a QB, I'm convinced.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Richelieu
The Bills would cream the Rams.

I think the Bills are a good team. And they did cream the Rams.