True Love Waits (Until Someone with a Clue Teaches Sex Ed)

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by DanS
All of the sudden Waxman is an authority?

WaPo made a big editorial mistake in putting this on page A1. Might as well fall in with the editorial standards of the Washington Times.

You're usually brighter than this, Dan. You know how Congressional reports work: Congressmen outsource it to staffers, staffers hire/consult experts. An ad hominem attack on Waxman doesn't discredit the report.

[DanS]

It's just partisan hackary on the public nickle. I feel no need to give the report any more credence than it deserves, which is quite a bit less than A1 coverage.

[Drake Tungsten]

Who really cares about sex ed, anyway? Get it all out of the schools and let parents handle it...

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Who really cares about sex ed, anyway? Get it all out of the schools and let parents handle it...

Yeah, uh, that's partly why sex ed in public schools was introduced in the first place.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Besides, many types of "touching" end up leading to potentially pregnancy-inducing activities, anyway.

The fundies were trying to mislead the kids and scare them into not masterbaiting and you know it.

[Drake Tungsten]

Yeah, uh, that's partly why sex ed in public schools was introduced in the first place.

It's sure done a good job, hasn't it?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by DanS
It's just partisan hackary on the public nickle. I feel no need to give the report any more credence than it deserves, which is quite a bit less than A1 coverage.

Nonsense. It may not merit A1, but Abstinence Only Ed has been under attack for a long time from a variety of quarters for just this kind of problem. Having a Congressional report document the abuse of both our tax dollars and our children's minds is long overdue.

[Drake Tungsten]

The fundies were trying to mislead the kids and scare them into not masterbaiting and you know it.

Actually, I think they were probably trying to deter kids from touching other people's genitals...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Who really cares about sex ed, anyway? Get it all out of the schools and let parents handle it...

Except most parents don't and then we end up having a country filled with ignorant people who think they'll get aids from a toilet seat.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

The fundies were trying to mislead the kids and scare them into not masterbaiting and you know it.

Actually, I think they were probably trying to deter kids from touching other people's genitals...

I say both. The religious fundies have been spreading lies about anything to do with sex for centuries.

[DanS]

Rufus: Well then the WaPo should actually report the story, rather than reporting on a report of unknown merit put out by a politician looking for publicity. The WaPo has journalistic norms and has a whole lot more resources than does Waxman. He's only got some 5 or 6 legislative staff who spend most of their time answering constituent mail. This isn't even a real congressional report, which normally is the result of a lengthy hearings and consultative process to hear all sides of the story.

[Drake Tungsten]

Sex-ed reminds me of DARE. DARE was meant to give kids information so that they could make an informed choice to stay off drugs, but all it really did was create a generation of preternaturally knowledgable drug users...

[Dinner]

I took DARE and it did a good job of educating people about the dangers of drugs.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Agathon

Is that what your wife does to your head in private?

Jealous are we, sir?

I hope you are not that rough all the time

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Sex-ed reminds me of DARE. DARE was meant to give kids information so that they could make an informed choice to stay off drugs, but all it really did was create a generation of preternaturally knowledgable drug users...

Where your comparison falls down is that you don't have an entire culture encouraging their youth to become drug users. But we do have an entire culture encouraging our youth to become sexual. Not to sound like a fuddy-duddy dad here, but I honestly can't remember the last time I watched a (non-Pixar) movie with my daughter that didn't make me squirm, at least once, with some sexual innuendo. And that's just what I see with her; what she encounters on her own, in media aimed at her demographic, is even worse.

The way to deal with all that is through honest, accurate information about sexuality. That's how we deal with it at home, and that's how I hope it would be dealt with in school. Barring that, I'd rather have no sex ed than this abstinence only crap, for the same reason that I would rather have no biology at all rather than subject my kid to creationism.