Feeling up women's private parts to fight terrorism

[Jaguar]

Wow, you gave a thumbs up to my troll, which was supposed to annoy you. Now I don't know how to respond!

/me flees

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
True, and it's a very good point.

Which is why you search a few women, but not out of proportion to their likelihood to commit an attack.

No one ever said you stop searching everyone else. It simply means you focus your resources more towards the greatest threat and as that threat changes we move our resources. We don't have to have static tactics.

[Winston]

Sorry Jaguar.

How about sketching up something involving people's fingers getting chopped off.

[laurentius]

First, to Imrans avatar

This kind of groping is completely insane! In fact I think this whole hysteria about terrorists is disgusting. Its just an excuse by the establishment, particularly the US government to build up a real police state. What the US is doing at their airports is totally inexcusable ear marking of people and the fact that they consider anyone enterig their country a terrorist by default is the only reason that might keep me from ever going there. I hope it is possible to fly to Canada and then cross the border by land in order to avoid this kind of criminal behaviour by foreign officials.

I dont understand how this can be tolerated and why it is tolerated. Even in police states like former USSR, North Korea etc this kind of outrageous attack on individual privacy and freedom let alone the open hatred from the officials towards you as a foreigner would have been totally out of the question.

I say cavity search any US citizen entering the EU area. Make the US airlines pass on their passenger lists and private information about to any EU government who requests them. I will sware that no foreign officials will ever have my fingerprints, DNA or pictures taken.

Whats the next move from the US officials? Start to tattoo bar codes and numbers to every individual? Dont forget the GPS and under-the- skin bio chips.

The other *******s are of course the Australian officials. My parents were suspected to be illegal immigrants last year when they flew to Sydney to attend an international economist forum. Nowadays my dad gets pissed up from even having to remove his watch during the security check. And I admit it, its insulting.

Some people are willing to risk going to a plane with a terrorist rather than being humiliated by foreign official who would be easily bribed anyway by the terrorists. I'm one of those people. In fact I would love to make a scene at some airport security check in. My pride and the soveigrenity is one of the few things people have left in our current mad world, and its a damn good reason to fight or even die for!

[Shi Huangdi]

It would be nice if there was another way. I remember a while back they had developed technology through which they would be able to see if the person had a weapon or anything like that through X-rays: Only problem was the X-Ray scans also revealed naked images of the passengers.

It's may be an unpleasant thing for women to have some other woman patting them down with the back of their hands. But we absolutely cannot allow that discomfort to jeopardize the safety of everybody on board the plane. If we institute a "No searching private areas" rule, then terrorists would be able to sneak weapons or explosive on a plane with impunity by carrying them in their underwear.

Profiling would not be a solution for this. If we were to simply give white caucasian women a pass, all they would need to do is find one white caucasian convert to Islam to sneak on and they have guaranteed sucsess.

[Dinner]

I dont understand how this can be tolerated and why it is tolerated.

I can think of 2,792 reasons.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by MrFun



Did you know there are people who fly for business rather than leisure?

Last I heard, the USA was still not the USSR - people are free to quit their jobs.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ah yes, trading of freedom for security, away we go blissfully to the police state of the future United State.

[Chemical Ollie]

I'd hit it!

Joking aside, what will it prevent?

The idea of using small knifes in airplane high-jacking is wasted forever. The moment of surprise is gone - it will never work again, not anywhere in the World. Before September 11 2001, there were dozens of high-jackings each year, by Arab Extremists, Russian Desperados and Afghanistan refugees, whatever - everyone had their own reason, and most of them just wanted to escape their native country. No one will ever use a fake hand grenade or a toy pistol again, ever. Even if the high-jacker geats the stuff on, the other passengers would resists violently at all costs, making it impossible to use fear as a weapon. Cutting the throath of the stewardess will never passify the crowd any more.

The serious terrorists will use other means. High-jacking is probably an obsolete tactic anyway. If I were Al Queda and had dozens of suicide bombers, I would use perfume bottles or similar small containers filled with liquid explosives. And detonators hidden inside balltip pens, disguised as ink refills. Those things would not be easy to detect in X-ray scanners, but would require dogs or chemical sniffers to find. If they sent 100 people on a simultaneous mission, perhaps 98 would make it and blow a plane off the sky within the same hour. The whole world's business would be stunned for months, even more than 3 years ago.

We don't need to look for knifes, we need to look for explosives- get the dogs out there!

[laurentius]

Originally posted by Oerdin

I dont understand how this can be tolerated and why it is tolerated.

I can think of 2,792 reasons.

Thats very nice. Would you perhaps like to share some of them?

[Winston]

laurentius,

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[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Well, if they're rich, it's OK, isn't it?

Did I say that?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
There are times when one is justified to discriminate, and this is one of them.

No it isn't.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Asher
You, sir, Mr. McVeigh. You and your large duffle bag can come right on through, I need to get back to work to catching them terrists!

You too, Mr. Reid!

Don't forget DB Cooper.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Ah yes, trading of freedom for security, away we go blissfully to the police state of the future United State.

What freedom has been taken away again? My freedom not to have to go through meaningful security before getting on a plane? Or was it my freedom not to lose a few minutes before getting on a plane?