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  • #61
    Originally posted by Agathon


    Yes. They are called teachers.
    They're paid to teach you to learn to think, not what.
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Last Conformist
      @Diss: Why, then, do you think that child leukaemia, along with various other cancer, is thru the roof in Belarus?


      They smoke too much pot?
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      • #63
        So pot is more harmfull than radation is?
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        • #64
          So the Bush Administration wants people to believe...
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          There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
          Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Dissident
            I have worked with ionizing radiation, and had training to its effects.
            One ionizing radiation is not the same as another ionizing radiation. It's all in the energy.

            It is shown that UV light increases the chance of skin cancer, and that people should not be subject to x-rays often.
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            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Q Cubed
              "Gather round as I sing you of Werner von Braun
              A man whose allegiance
              is ruled by expedience
              Call him a Nazi and he won't even frown
              Nazi, Schmazi says Werner von Braun

              Don't say that he's hypocritical
              Say rather that he's apolitical
              'Once ze rockets go up, who cares where zey come down?
              That's not my department' says Werner von Braun.

              Some have harsh words for this man of renown
              But some say our attitude
              Should be one of gratitude
              Like the widows and cripples of old London town
              Who owe their large pensions to Werner von Braun

              You too can be such a hero
              If you can count backward to zero
              'In English unt German, I know how to count down
              Unt I'm learning Chinese!' says Werner von Braun"
              Werner Von Braun wasnot than warcriminal as he wasnot than member of the SS or than inner Nazie Party
              member, if you want to than cival servant, mailman, railroad engineer, or school teacher you have to be than member of the Nazie Party. He was call as than witness in a wartime slaverly case in the factory where they make V-2 rocket.
              By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Elok
                Technically, lung cancer from smoking isn't "proven" either.
                Why did the tocca companies try to hide they own research which prove smokeing can be one of the cause of lung cancer.
                By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                • #68
                  Re: scientists need to GET OVER IT

                  Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                  We just watched a video in DNA Science, and I must say: yes, the atomic bomb killed people. Shut up and deal. We don't need to hear about the "ethical implications" every single frigging time you discover some new gene or whatever! I'm sick of their fetish with figuring out ways their research could cause millions of deaths or - god forbid - an ethical dilemma about genetic engineering. Just like the same dilemma last week.



                  Also, I think professional "bioethicists" are leeches and a complete waste of society's resources. They should be shot on sight. (This goes for any ethicist, for that matter; I don't need to pay someone to tell me what my ethics are, thank you very much.)


                  Does anyone else here think it's unethical to shoot people on sight?

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                  • #69
                    Re: Re: scientists need to GET OVER IT

                    Originally posted by Zkribbler


                    Does anyone else here think it's unethical to shoot people on sight?
                    No

                    *bang*

                    -Drachasor

                    PS.
                    "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                    • #70
                      Ack! Ya got me! [stagger, stagger . . . thud]

                      Originally posted by Dissident
                      While it hasn't been proven that radiation causes birth defects, they usually remove pregnant women from nuke power plants after their first trimester. Which was a moot point, since we had no women in the program .
                      Hoot! HOOT! HOOT! Hoot! HOOT! HOOT! Hoot! HOOT! HOOT! Hoot! HOOT! HOOT!

                      Attention! Attention! Gender Discrmination Alert! Gender Discrmination Alert! Gender Discrmination Alert!

                      Hoot! HOOT! HOOT! Hoot! HOOT! HOOT! Hoot! HOOT! HOOT! Hoot! HOOT! HOOT!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by CharlesBHoff
                        Werner Von Braun wasnot than warcriminal as he wasnot than member of the SS or than inner Nazie Party
                        member, if you want to than cival servant, mailman, railroad engineer, or school teacher you have to be than member of the Nazie Party. He was call as than witness in a wartime slaverly case in the factory where they make V-2 rocket.
                        As Wernher von Braun became a member of the american rocket research team it would also have been contraproductive to trie him for war crimes.
                        And hypocritical, as the scientists who worked for the manhattan project helped to kill much more innocent civilians.
                        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
                        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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                        • #72
                          In my experience, scientists are no more ethical or unethical than anyone else who works in a competitive field. Its common though, for experiments to be done just because they can be done and because it furthers someones career.
                          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                          If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                          Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                          • #73
                            Re: scientists need to GET OVER IT

                            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            Also, I think professional "bioethicists" are leeches and a complete waste of society's resources. They should be shot on sight. (This goes for any ethicist, for that matter; I don't need to pay someone to tell me what my ethics are, thank you very much.)
                            "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but he who is wise listens to counsel"

                            Bioethics
                            The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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                            • #74
                              That quote is complete bull****.

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                              • #75
                                The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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