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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spiffor
    (well, supranatural beliefs are relevant when trying to understand human behaviour, because the fact that people believe is a reality. The content of the bliefs is not)
    I hope that you mean - "there are religious persons and they react due to this" and not "because some people beliefs in the supernatural then we have to take the supernatural seriosly" ?
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

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    • #17
      None.

      Though I was baptised, but mostly because of the grandparents and then later did my first communion due to pressure from the school(what you doat the age of around 6, don't know the crrect English term).
      I actually only only did it at the age of 8 when I transfered to a Catholic school.
      I was not required to do so, but they "appreciated" the gesture.
      I did not do the full communion ( at the age of 12 ), because I thought it was hypocrital seeing as everyone just did it to get the gifts.
      It was actually at this school where my resentment for religion grew.
      I couldn't stand the fact that teachers tried to brainwash us, 'winning' discussions with 10 year olds on a subject that you've spent 20-30 years studying didn't really classify as an achievement with me.
      Such as playing Devils advocate where we has to convince him God exists, etc...
      * spits on floor *

      Anyway, I belief - even cynical old me, yes - in mankind with all it's errors but also with all it's brilliance.
      It is time, we shed the yoke (? that the right word?) that is religion and move on our own.

      Am I 100% sure there is no god, off-course not, no-one can. Do I care or do I think it matters? Hell (<-- see what I did here ) no!!!

      If there is one though - and of this I am pretty sure - he will not be anything any religion claims he/she/it is and I'm sure he wouldn't give a **** either.


      Some say there is a light at the end of the tunnel when you die, and yes, there will be. It's a train coming at you at 200 miles an hour...
      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
      Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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      • #18
        Personally, I call myself an atheist cause it's easy shorthand.

        Philosophically, I realise I cannot prove nor disprove the existance of any supernatural being 100% nor can I point to anything that an omnipotent entity could not do. On the other hand, I cannot prove supernatural beings nor need an omnipotent entity to establish anything in the universe. So philosopically, I'm agnostic.

        Though I'm quite fond of the idea of the universe being run by a committee of the gods who have taken an extended lunch break.
        Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
        -Richard Dawkins

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        • #19
          Though I'm quite fond of the idea of the universe being run by a committee of the gods who have taken an extended lunch break.



          I've said this before but anyway.
          I personally think we're the toys in the bedroom of a childgod who never cleaned up and got bored with us a loooooong time ago.
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          • #20
            It was somewhat seriously discussed in my philosophy classes that if you track the development of God from the OT ,who flips back and forth from loving to vengeful, to the NT, where He's all into the unconditional love thing, you're actually tracking the development of God's maturity. He's been growing alongside us as a partner in existence, not a full developed entity from the start.
            Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
            -Richard Dawkins

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            • #21
              athiest are too narrow minded in my point of view.

              I don't know what I am. All I know is I hate all religions. Call me an agnostic if you will.

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              • #22
                I don't belong to any religion. My soul is my own, my life is my own, and my money is my own, and I don't need anyone to tell me how to live (or die). I can strive to be wise, compassionate, honourable and knowledgable without conforming to someone else's model of the universe.

                As for the existence of God(s), like quite a few people who already posted here I can't help but accept that their existence cannot be proven or disproven.

                Besides, even if the gods exist up there in another plane, what does that mean for us down here on this plane? Absolutely nothing IMHO.

                So if I'm anything, I'm Agnostic.
                "Corporation, n, An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." -- Ambrose Bierce
                "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin
                "Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                • #23
                  I'm a member of the Lutheran church. Last time I was in church was at a wedding 2 years ago though. I never pray. I guess I'm not a very good Christian. Anyway, I like to believe there's an old bearded guy up there watching my back.
                  CSPA

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                  • #24
                    Any old bearded dude up there is definitely not watching my back. I gave up on that idea a long time ago. I place the blame for this ****ed up world with any long bearded ****er up there.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #25
                      guys with beards are shady

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sava
                        ... Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, Zeus, Poseidon, Thor, Ra, etc...
                        I think Stargate SG1's explanation of the "gods" is just as likely as the religious explanations.
                        Haven't been here for ages....

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                        • #27
                          I'm a Discordian because religions should be stupid!

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                          • #28
                            I am a devout Christian.
                            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jethro83
                              I don't belong to any religion. My soul is my own, my life is my own, and my money is my own, and I don't need anyone to tell me how to live (or die). I can strive to be wise, compassionate, honourable and knowledgable without conforming to someone else's model of the universe.

                              As for the existence of God(s), like quite a few people who already posted here I can't help but accept that their existence cannot be proven or disproven.

                              Besides, even if the gods exist up there in another plane, what does that mean for us down here on this plane? Absolutely nothing IMHO.

                              So if I'm anything, I'm Agnostic.
                              Believing in having a soul is clearly religious
                              In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                              • #30
                                Some religions are secular, like Buddhism. They've got alot of really great and insightful aspects to them.

                                I'm actually going to be doing anthropological fieldwork at a Buddhist temple this winter... could be interesting.

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