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  • #16
    We're such bastards for requiring people to have a valid SS# to have a driver's license.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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    • #17
      Dinodoc,

      What are you on about?

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #18
        Backing up a little bit, Boshko, why does she need a Visa? You said you wanted her to come meet your parents... can't she just come visit for a week or two (normal vacation travel)? That shouldn't require a Visa, should it?

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Arrian


          Are you really that dense that you think the post-9/11 crackdown has only effected illegal immigrants?
          Considering the fact that is what most of the article is about, I find the pity party going on in this thread more than a little sickening.
          What are you on about?
          new security crackdowns that make it harder for those without a valid Social Security number to drive, work or plan a future in the United States.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #20
            I'm TALKING ABOUT BOSHKO'S ISSUE. **** the article, we already jacked the thread!

            But ok, you're stuck in the past. I understand.



            -Arrian
            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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            • #21
              See-- this article could have been written positively about the Irish success story. Ireland is a great example. Why the heck did they have to write it as some sort of US failure?
              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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              • #22
                They wrote it as a Bush Admin failiure. The rest follows from there.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Arrian
                  Backing up a little bit, Boshko, why does she need a Visa? You said you wanted her to come meet your parents... can't she just come visit for a week or two (normal vacation travel)? That shouldn't require a Visa, should it?

                  -Arrian
                  Nope, for Korean citizens you now need a visa to even set foot in America. She can't even have a layover in an American airport on her way to Toronto (would've saved her money if she could ).
                  Stop Quoting Ben

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                  • #24
                    Because the New York Times feels like it has to apologize for America. I find such stuff odious.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Boshko

                      Nope, for Korean citizens you now need a visa to even set foot in America. She can't even have a layover in an American airport on her way to Toronto (would've saved her money if she could ).
                      Wtf?

                      Dan,

                      While the NYT takes it to an extreme, what does it say if we never apologize for anything, ever. We're always right! LALALALALALALA! That's the flip side, which I find odious.

                      -Arrian
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • #26
                        You gusy are dense. The point isn't the immigrants or the legality of them.

                        Them point is that people are leaving the US for IRELAND, possibly the worlds greater wholesale supplier of people... thats a real role reversal. Its also very sad for the US.

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                        • #27
                          While the NYT takes it to an extreme
                          That's the issue here, not the flipside.

                          Luckily, the New York Times has a rather limited circulation relative to reputable papers.

                          Its also very sad for the US.
                          Why? I have nothing but happiness for these folks that they can make good in their homeland for the first time in centuries.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Arrian


                            Wtf?

                            Dan,

                            While the NYT takes it to an extreme, what does it say if we never apologize for anything, ever. We're always right! LALALALALALALA! That's the flip side, which I find odious.

                            -Arrian
                            Well Koreans are smart and are getting revenge. Huge numbers (there's a big business in travel packages to do this) of pregnant Koreans are travelling to America to have their kids so that their kids will be American citizens (you're an American citizen if you're born there even if your parents aren't and if you were only there for the day that you're born). One of my old adult students got pissed at her husband when he wouldn't pay for her to go to America to have her kid.
                            Stop Quoting Ben

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                            • #29
                              The NYT doesn't exist in a vacuum, Dan. Neither do the publications that spout USA! USA! USA! all the time. They are connected, reacting to (or rather against) one another.

                              Jimmy,

                              It might say things about the US, but from what I understand about Ireland, they've really made great strides. I think it is primarily an Irish success story, not an American failure.

                              The NYT would've been better served to write an article about how we refuse entry to our "allies" in South Korea unless they get a Visa, which apparently requires a college degree and a bundle 'o money. Just to visit.

                              -Arrian
                              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                              • #30
                                Ack, after reading that last post by Boshko, the Visa policy starts making some sense. Looks to me like Koreans have other Koreans to blame for the restrictions, Boshko.

                                -Arrian
                                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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