Asking all English Canadians

[Tassadar500]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
BTW, I didn't know that you were Quebecois Spec.

Now that means the list is:

Oncle Boris
Spec
Richelieu
Nostromo
And KH, who is AFAIK Anglo-Quebecois, right?

I'm Anglo-Quebecois.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Agathon
Funny how Asher complains about Quebecers being whiners when Albertans are the biggest whingers in North America.

Western Rednecks
Liberal goverments for the foreseeable future.
Western Rednecks annoyance at this.
French Canadian women.

Canadian "chicks" = [internal contradiction]
Québécois chicks
True French hotties
Anally retentive young males

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Funny how Asher complains about Quebecers being whiners when Albertans are the biggest whingers in North America.

It's whining when you're the leach, it's complaining when you're the main contributer to equalization payments that pays the bills of virtually every other province.

Let's face it: Canada would be better off with Quebec gone financially, and worse off if Alberta left.

With them gone, we can safely get rid of the bilingual bull****. Maybe legislate mandatory nutrition and dietary information on all food products, instead of having, say, "Coca Cola Classic" in French.

Quebec is preventing the rest of Canada from being fit.

[joncha]

But better off with Alberta's resources nationalised.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon

Oh please, you're not even Canadian.

Go start a Kiwi club thread.

[Asher]

Originally posted by joncha
But better off with Alberta's resources nationalised.

No Liberal would have the balls to try that again. They'd lose them very quickly, if they did.

[joncha]

One more reason I don't vote Liberal.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher

It's whining when you're the leach, it's complaining when you're the main contributer to equalization payments that pays the bills of virtually every other province.

Quebec and Ontario contribute the most to the equalisation payments. Ontario gets nothing back, Quebec gets some money back.

The idea that Quebec is a leech is just stupid.

Quebecers pay taxes just like everyone else.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
Quebec and Ontario contribute the most to the equalisation payments. Ontario gets nothing back, Quebec gets some money back.

The idea that Quebec is a leech is just stupid.

Quebecers pay taxes just like everyone else.

You may want to look into how net equalization payments work, before you start misleading people.

It doesn't matter if they contribute more gross, when they have SO many more people. In the end, every single person GETS more money back in equalization payments than they pay. Further, what each person pays in Quebec to equalization payments is about half as much as what Albertans pay, and they don't get as much as they pay back.

Which one has a net negative flow (hereafter the 'leech'), and which one has a net positive flow?

The exercise is left to the reader.

[Tingkai]

Asher, you're the one misleading people.

If 10 people contribute to the pot, and the money gets divided among eight of the 10, this doesn't mean that the other two were the only ones contributing to the pot.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
Asher, you're the one misleading people.

If 10 people contribute to the pot, and the money gets divided among eight of the 10, this doesn't mean that the other two were the only ones contributing to the pot.

No, but that's not my point.

If you contribute $5 to the pot and get $10 -- every time...and someone else contributes $10 and gets $5 -- every time...which one is leeching?

I'm unsure why you're fixated on the gross equalization payments, because they're meaningless. Every province contributes to it, and then that money is distributed among the provinces.

I'm only concerned with net equalization payments -- where Alberta and Ontario are the only provinces who don't get what they put in, consistently. Alberta's gap between what they contribute and what they get is enormous.

Quebec gets billions of dollars every year as freebies from the government with equlization payments, and Alberta loses billions of dollars every year to fund it. And still, Quebec whines and hates Alberta.

They shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher

Their "Liberal" government is really conservatives, and it's under their leadership that BC is now becoming a "have" province again.

It was under the NDP that they tanked.

No,
Under the BC "Liberals", BC has gone from a have province to a have not province.

See:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/equalization/

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
No,
Under the BC "Liberals", BC has gone from a have province to a have not province.

They were a "have not" province before the "Liberals" took over...

They're now approaching being a "have" province again..

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher

No, but that's not my point.

If you contribute $5 to the pot and get $10 -- every time...and someone else contributes $10 and gets $5 -- every time...which one is leeching?

I wouldn't use the word "leeching". A leech is a parasite that feeds off another body and gives nothing in return. Quebec contributes to Canada as a whole and to the equalisation payments so to call them a leech is simply wrong.


I agree with you that Quebec shouldn't be complaining, and the majority of Quebecers realise how much they get from Ottawa. Some of them are willing to sacrifice economic benefits to achieve their nationalist dreams, and some of them want a free ride.

[Asher]

Quebec is teh sux