My Public Apology!

[Dinner]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
I think the most offensive post in the original thread is Oerdin's - assuming he means it...

Bugger off!

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
In defense of IR, I took a look at his profile and he didn't have a Muslim name, so it seems to me that Oerdins counter-bigotry was embarassingly misplaced.

He is Muslim, but bigotry is always misplaced.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

bigotry is always misplaced.

[Whaleboy]

He is Muslim, but bigotry is always misplaced.

[Nubclear]

Edit: com'on Tass, don't mess around, 'k?

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Heresson
I think the reaction didn't quite match the actual content, esp. since it was supposed to be joke.
There's more agressive anti-Polish, anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, anti-religion, anti-USA, anti-French etc bias here going on every day that's more than tolerated.

Which was the point of my experimental French Joke thread...

Some of the jokes I posted on there were at least as bad as the jokes on the thread posted by IR, but not a flutter of outrage for almost 24 hours when I checked back.

In fact it merely encouraged more anti-French and other 'racist' jokes from a number of other posters! Personally I don't know what the fuss is about these jokes myself, but if you are going to come down hard on one type of joke - then you should be consistent.

I can't comment after that as the thread has been deleted - I can only assume that the management of this site was so embarrassed by this implied hypocrisy that they felt compelled to wipe out all trace of it...

Maybe we could get a topped thread of apology from the Poly management admitting their double standards?

[Ming]

Originally posted by MOBIUS

I can't comment after that as the thread has been deleted - I can only assume that the management of this site was so embarrassed by this implied hypocrisy that they felt compelled to wipe out all trace of it...

You can assume all you want... and as usual, you are wrong.

It's more a difference in a how the mods handle threads.
My prefered method is to delete offensive threads... which I did when I finally saw the french thread. I've been busy at work this week and did not spend a lot of time watching the OT...

The other thread was handled by another mod... and most of the other mods don't delete like I do, they just close things...

So if you are looking for an apology... maybe you should look in the mirror, and make one yourself for starting a thread that insulted people.

[Whaleboy]

Mobius, I don't think theres any hypocrisy. If a third of the population of France had been wiped out in the space of less than a decade, or such "jokes" used to literally ruin the lives of Poles for years on end, then you could expect the same reaction to jokes about France or Poland. If members of your family had been tortured and killed, and half a century later your family are still under attack from people using these "jokes" then you can bet that when you grow up, you'd have a bad reaction to it.

A joke is always a well timed and well-said comment at the expense of someone... I have yet to see a joke that doesn't laugh at someone or somethings expense, but such are the circumstances of people's lives that you will cause actual hurt if your "joke" crosses a line with some people.

There's no hypocrisy there, it's just a fact of life, so drop your crap and try to see things from other people's points of view.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Whaleboy


A joke is always a well timed and well-said comment at the expense of someone... I have yet to see a joke that doesn't laugh at someone or somethings expense, but such are the circumstances of people's lives that you will cause actual hurt if your "joke" crosses a line with some people.

There's no hypocrisy there, it's just a fact of life, so drop your crap and try to see things from other people's points of view.

I've always found the most acerbic Jewish jokes to be those told by Jews.

If anyone's good at producing really biting self-satirising stuff, it's the Jews.

[Whaleboy]

I've always found the most acerbic Jewish jokes to be those told by Jews.

If anyone's good at producing really biting self-satirising stuff, it's the Jews.

Does one get offended by a joke one tells to oneself? The operative term is "at the expense of"... meaning the difference between telling a joke about someone else, and telling the same joke about yourself, is the difference between giving something as a gift, and having it stolen off you.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Ming
You can assume all you want... and as usual, you are wrong.

And you as usual couldn't get sarcasm even if it was the most contagious disease known to man and was injected directly into your bloodstream...

It's more a difference in a how the mods handle threads.
My prefered method is to delete offensive threads... which I did when I finally saw the french thread. I've been busy at work this week and did not spend a lot of time watching the OT...

The other thread was handled by another mod... and most of the other mods don't delete like I do, they just close things...

A feeble excuse which also betrays the sad inconsistencies (i.e. double standards) of moderation on this board...

So if you are looking for an apology... maybe you should look in the mirror, and make one yourself for starting a thread that insulted people.

I should be apologising for highlighting double standards on this board?

I'm not condoning the jewish joke thread, but I do begin to have a problem when jokes like that are clamped down on (rightly so) on the one hand, and vicious overtly anti-gay and anti-french attacks in the past have been tolerated despite complaints to the fact.

As for insulting people, I don't know whether that thread did or not because you deleted it.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
There's no hypocrisy there, it's just a fact of life, so drop your crap and try to see things from other people's points of view.

Right, one of the French Jokes I posted that didn't bat an eyelid for at least 24hrs was:

"What do you do if you see a frenchman running down the street with half a
head?

Stop laughing and reload."

Pretty nasty don't you think?

Not one person here commented on it in that time despite plenty of people reading the thread - in fact it helped inspire a rash of other jokes...

Now imagine if I had substituted 'frenchman' for 'jew', I'm sure there would have been uproar...

[Ming]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
And you as usual couldn't get sarcasm even if it was the most contagious disease known to man and was injected directly into your bloodstream...

And as usual, you are acting like an ass

A feeble excuse which also betrays the sad inconsistencies (i.e. double standards) of moderation on this board...

Typical of you to make more assine assumptions... you have no clue what you are talking about... just making up crap...

I should be apologising for highlighting double standards on this board?

You should apologise for being a jerk.

As for insulting people, I don't know whether that thread did or not because you deleted it.

Again.. typical of you... make jokes about how you insult people then claim the owners are the hypocrits... What a joke you are

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Ming
And as usual, you are acting like an ass

I'm just pointing out the error of your initial assumption by being so sarcastic that you would get it this time...

Typical of you to make more assine assumptions... you have no clue what you are talking about... just making up crap...

You said yourself that you delete threads where others do not in only the previous post.

Again.. typical of you... make jokes about how you insult people then claim the owners are the hypocrits... What a joke you are

You know damned well that was not my intention, so please don't pretend to be so stupid...

The only reason I even posted my experiment was to prove that at least for the first 24hrs of its existence no one cared that the French were being insulted in a thread, whereas it took only minutes for the other thread to register outrage.

My intention was to return later and explain the reason for the posting of the thread and to discuss its outcome, but I can't now.

You can continue to call me names now instead of actually addressing the situation...

[Ming]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
You can continue to call me names now instead of actually addressing the situation...

First, you were the one throwing around insults.. making up bad assumptions... and just generally acting like you were high and mighty for creating an insulting thread with the sole intent of egging people on to insult people... and all under what you call an "experiment"...

Yeah... right... just you acting like an ass...

I answered your question... but you continued with your typical crap... making more stuff up, and generally making an ass of your self... and still trying to defend your weak position.

If you want "fairness"... I'll give it to you... the same choice given to the offender in the other thread...

Either create a SERIOUS and HONEST apology thread to those you insulted... or get restricted... Your choice. And if I don't believe your apology... I'll restrict you anyway...

Will that be fair enough for you high ground...

So If I don't see a thread later, you will get restricted.. Enjoy the fairness you are demanding.