My Public Apology!

[Whaleboy]

Except for the one who's arse is being kissed

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Or the nearly 16 million (up to 30 million) civilians killed in Russia? Every nation has their claim to this sort of thing.

1) The number is highly bloated
2) Not Russia, but USSR
3) USSR was one of the ones that started the war
4) If this war hadn't happened, millions Soviet citizens would have died anyway.

To Kuci - When were Poles incompetent in the art of war? No-one could match Germans.
Soviets have lost entire Ukraine, Byelorus and Baltic states before they managed to stop Germans.
France didn't do better at all,
Britain was saved by La Manche...

[Whaleboy]

Heresson, in fairness to Kuci, the Polish generals had to be smoking something to send cavalry against Panzers .

[Heresson]

Don't You ever learn they did not?
There was a case when Polish cavalry accidentally encountered panzers, and had to make its way out,
but the common thought at Apolyton that it was common, it is part of nazi Germany propaganda.

[Kuciwalker]

It doesn't matter whether they actually were incompetent, it's just that they lost.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Heresson


1) The number is highly bloated

Most numbers end up being around 10-30m. Of course Soviet numbers are lower, but I don't think you'd be one to rely on Soviet numbers

2) Not Russia, but USSR

I find it interesting that you often refer to it as "Russia" when condeming it but when suddenly Russia might get sympathy for its (obviously nonexistent) civilian losses in WW2, it suddenly becomes the whole USSR

3) USSR was one of the ones that started the war

Thus, the civilians are meaningless. Germany, Soviet Union, Italy, France, Britain, Japan...Who cares about them? Only Poland matters, right?

4) If this war hadn't happened, millions Soviet citizens would have died anyway.

Wait! I thought Russia the Soviet Union didnt lose anybody! But your right, even if they did the Soviet Union evil Russians still would have slaughtered all the non-Russians

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
It doesn't matter whether they actually were incompetent, it's just that they lost.

Just like Germany... What's your country anyway?

find it interesting that you often refer to it as "Russia" when condeming it but when suddenly Russia might get sympathy for its (obviously nonexistent) civilian losses in WW2, it suddenly becomes the whole USSR

Like when? I do not do that.

Thus, the civilians are meaningless. Germany, Soviet Union, Italy, France, Britain, Japan...Who cares about them? Only Poland matters, right?

Don't be silly. Germans can't be pitied and respected due to their war losses because they started the war, and by analogy, You can't treat USSR the same as other Hitler's prays.

Wait! I thought Russia the Soviet Union didnt lose anybody! But your right, even if they did the Soviet Union evil Russians still would have slaughtered all the non-Russians

Stop claiming I claimed sth I claimed not.
USSR suffered great losses, and I'm pity the families of the victims. But millions died in USSR anyway, and those millions that died during the war died due to Soviet politics.

[Nubclear]

Germans can't be pitied and respected due to their war losses because they started the war,

Civilians should not die in war. They do, but they shouldn't and to say that they can't be pitied and respected simply because they lived in an aggressor nation...

USSR suffered great losses, and I'm pity the families of the victims. But millions died in USSR anyway, and those millions that died during the war died due to Soviet politics.

Yes, because we all know how highly Hitler thought of the Russian people. He would never try to invade Russia Other than the fact that he didn't consider Slavs much higher than Jews, and the fact that the Soviet Union was huge and communist probably irked him slightly too

This isn't a nationalistic issue. I would have thought that it wouldn't have even mattered where they died..

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Heresson
Just like Germany... What's your country anyway?

US of A.

And Germany is a different case. They're widely viewed as good at war. The point is that jokes are based upon stereotypes, and the problem with jokes is when they actually support those stereotypes rather than mock them.

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by Ming
Whatever... he's the one that was taking pot shots at the owners... he got the same level of respect he was dishing out. Think what you want.

Not that it matters either way now, but I think the pot shots were at you and/or rah, not the owners

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Ming

Err, Ming... did you enjoy banning Mobius?

[Whaleboy]

There was a case when Polish cavalry accidentally encountered panzers, and had to make its way out,

WTF was a supposedly industrialised country doing with cavalry in the first place in 1939? Don't get me wrong, with the exception of the air force Britain wasn't much better in terms of technology that it was in 1918 but horses?

What were they planning to do? Stop the blitzkrieg in its tracks with horse droppings?

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Winston
Provost,

Difference of opinion then.

He thought he could outsmart everybody by posting a thread insulting French people and then carry on his eternal crusade against the mods here, while in the proces taking a badly concealed stab at Jewish people and the folks who aren't as antagonistic against Jews and Israel as he is. It's about the only thing he does anymore.

And all he got from it all was the knowledge that somehow, mysteriously, Ming wasn't out golfing on a Saturday...

A badly concealed stab at Jewish people? Oh pull the other one. I certainly know that MOBIUS is not doing that. Like me, he has nothing against Jewish nor French people, but he does get irritated when a thread about Jews is opened as is treated in the manner it is, yet when a thread about the French is opened that is at a similar level of offence everyone is rolling around in laughter. He posted on CG simultaneously what he was doing so there is no grand conspiracy going on.

And Ming was playing golf on the saturday? Well I am sure that was recorded in MOBIUS's diary

And yes, there does tend to be a degree of hypocrisy here at times. I still remember that thread with the lines from comedies which had many comedies that may not have been familiar to North Americans but was familiar to Europeans. What did they do? Close the thread. It seems to me to be one rule for one and one rule for the other...ie, hypocrisy.

The Jews may have had the holocaust during WWII but bear in mind that the French didn't exactly get an easy time during the war If France isn't a taboo subject, why should Judaism be likewise except for some misplaced sense of political correctness...

[Whaleboy]

It seems to me to be one rule for one and one rule for the other...ie, hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy only works there where there is no basis to treat them differently, I think there is.

If you're argument is right, why are the numerous anti-Israel threads allowed to stand? God knows I troll Israel enough times. Could it be suggested that this whole stink is for me?? *faints in ladylike manner*

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Whaleboy


Hypocrisy only works there where there is no basis to treat them differently, I think there is.

Really? Whats the difference between an French, Russian, Chinese, and Jewish joke thread?