"We're not last! We're not last! We're not last!"

[Odin]

That list shows that "Massachusetts Liberal" should be a compliment.

BTW, Minnesota:

[GePap]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
NYC doesn't necessarily deal with the same immigration problems as California. Does it really get that many illegals?

Does the "legality" of an individual really affect the school system resources differently? Specially since in neither state they will be paying property taxes?

The issue is one of kids from poor backgrounds with parents that may not speak english and can't really participate and children who must deal with the issues of poverty- the same whether one is legal or not.

And yes, we do get illegals in NYC, tought not as many as the border states.

[Richelieu]

Has anybody made a comparison with the list of the most religious states?

Just curious....

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
They should count Northern Virginia as a separate state

IIRC the school systems in northern Viriginia have not fared very well according to the state-wide Standards of Learning tests.

In the 1950s Virginia actually placed around 40th in educational attainment. My family moved here in 1960. You may draw the conclusions.

[DanS]

This is a dumb survey. It includes per pupil spending as a positive attribute.

I can guarantee that the DC school system spends some $13,000 per pupil per year, but gives a downright ****ty education for a sizable portion of its pupils. I would be much happier sending my kids to a rural Ohio school, where the schools spend less than half that amount per pupil.

[Dauphin]

I find it amusing that the sole last of 50 states can be ranked #49.

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
They should count Northern Virginia as a separate state

I think West Virginia should be considered a seperate state. Not lumped in with Texas like that.

[Dis]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
35! 35! 35!

Nevada = worse than ARKANSAS in education

ARKANSAS

Nevada

hey! what's wrong with Nevada? Some of us live there.

[Dis]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'd just thought I'd shame DRoseDARs by telling him Mississippi is smarter than Nevada.

them's fightin' words. prepare to duel.

[Dis]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Which is why there best students fight to come to American schools? The Asian school superiority myth is just that, a myth. Conservatives always like to compare the best Asian schools versus the worst American schools.

Truth is, American schools are definately among the best in the world. They have to be. There is simply no other way we could send such a large percentage of kids to college and university otherwise. And these people then go on to make America's economy one of the most innovative in the world.

So either we're so incredibly smart that our terrible educations aren't a handicap or conservatives are lying about the American education syste,. I wonder which one it is?

you're crazy if you are saying american public schools are better than Japanese public schools.

I will agree that our private schools are the best in the world though.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
IIRC the school systems in northern Viriginia have not fared very well according to the state-wide Standards of Learning tests.

Which is funny, given that we have one of the best education systems in the entire country, and the best high school.

[Jaguar]

Northern VA public schools, like DC-suburb Maryland public schools, are insanely good.

Northern VA is dragged down by the rest of the state, and likewise for the Maryland suburbs of DC.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Dissident
you're crazy if you are saying american public schools are better than Japanese public schools.

I'm not crazy and I am saying that. If you think it's fair to compare our inner city schools against the best schools Japan has to offer, then we have nothing to discuss. The U.S. with twice the population of Japan, has a far more innovative and robust economy. Our schools produce people who can think and solve problems. Over half of our high school graduates go on to college (though less than half of them graduate). What other country even comes close to that? If other countries' school systems are so much better, why do we beat the pants off them in everything except social services?

[Nubclear]

You do seem to discount the fact of immigration - many nations export their intelligent workforce to the United States.
And discounting social servies is not a small thing

[Dis]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
You do seem to discount the fact of immigration - many nations export their intelligent workforce to the United States.
And discounting social servies is not a small thing

social services are worthless. I've never got anything from the goverment. Why not?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Dissident
social services are worthless. I've never got anything from the goverment. Why not?

VCuz you live in a Western state where they don't believe in such things. I guarantee you are much happier with them than without.