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  • RE: Anwar... since I want us to kick our over-dependency on oil, I see Anwar as just delaying the inevitable and desirable result. Just another place sullied by oil drilling (it DOES make a mess, Ned. I've got several oil well claims on my desk right now).

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • Originally posted by Kidicious


      I don't like it as a short term solution. Better long term solutions should have been implemented. I'm not in a big hurry to drill all the last remaining reserves of oil to make Bush's buddies rich.
      So it makes more sense to buy Saudi oil during the interim?

      The foolishness of these ideas are clearly apparent.
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      • Originally posted by Ned


        So it makes more sense to buy Saudi oil during the interim?

        The foolishness of these ideas are clearly apparent.
        I would rather buy Saudi oil than line the pockets of the oil companies. Even though it seems obvious to me that the Saudis influence our govt, their influence has legal restraints.
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        • I also have my doubts that drilling will really lower the price of oil.

          We are often told that policies that help the oil companies help us, and let's just say that that is sometimes not true.
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          • I would rather buy Saudi oil than line the pockets of the oil companies
            Are the two even mutually exclusive? After all it's the oil companies like Mobil that will buy the Saudi oil and turn around and sell it to us, and turn a profit on the deal.

            -Arrian
            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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            • You'd rather line the pockets of a tyrannical theocracy that supports terrorism than the "oil companies"?

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              • Originally posted by Arrian


                Are the two even mutually exclusive? After all it's the oil companies like Mobil that will buy the Saudi oil and turn around and sell it to us, and turn a profit on the deal.

                -Arrian
                Why is this about oil company profits?
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                • Good point Arrian. I don't know, but I don't get real happy about making either of them richer when I go to the pump.
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                  • Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                    You'd rather line the pockets of a tyrannical theocracy that supports terrorism than the "oil companies"?
                    Well Bush doesn't see any difference between the two. I guess that's one thing that I agree with him about.
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                    • What about the good people of Alaska who basic needs will be met by their share of the royalties from Anwar? Why do you guys hate the Alaskan poor?
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                      • grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • @ Ned.

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                            • Alaskans
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                              • Most of the arguments against drilling in ANWAR are the same arguments used against the Alaskan pipeline. The world is going to end, the environment will be destroyed, animals will die by the millions, caribou will die because their migratory patterns will be irrevocably altered, ect. Well, here is the truth, the environment hasn’t been destroyed. The caribou population actually increased and millions of gallons of oil gets transported much safer and more economically than putting it in oil tankers.

                                Now some people jump up and down and scream we MUST protect ANWAR! ANWAR is a frozen swamp. That’s it. There is nothing there. The laws for drilling on federal land (95 percent of the state of Alaska is owned by the federal government) are very stringent. As long as the oil drills are maintained and the area kept clean I really don’t understand what all the complaining is about. Well, actually I do radical environmentalists want no new technological advance and want us all to become one with nature. (Harp music playing in the back ground) The reality of this issue is that you can have both a clean environment AND access to natural resources. It doesn’t have to be an either or situation.

                                When I was in High School the big environmental issue was the Rain Forest. I remember people quoting that the equivalent of three American Football Fields were getting cut down every minute. Well, like most of the scare tactics used by the radical environmentalists it wasn’t true. As far as oil companies getting rich off oil profits I would rather they get it than an unresponsive wasteful and corrupt Federal Government. Here’s the dirty little secret about oil companies. They provide these things called jobs. And in a political climate where people complain about out sourcing and low paying jobs, oil companies provide both high paying jobs and local employment at refineries in THIS country. When companies make money, their employees make money. So what if oil companies get rich? I have never been employed by a poor man.

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