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  • #16
    The North needs to declare Independence.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by DanS
      For comparison purposes, here's the 2000 map. Gore got 48.38% of the vote and Bush got 47.87% of the vote. Nader was the spoiler at 2.73% of the vote.

      New Hampshire demonstrates its continued maverick streak from the 1916 elections, but Oregon couldn't quite bring itself to do the same.
      the states around it all 'flipped' as well

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dissident

        red should = republicans. Always
        Nah, red = left.

        Always

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        • #19
          Originally posted by St Leo
          The North needs to declare Independence.
          But then where would we get all the footsoldiers for our badass army from?

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          • #20
            Here's another wartime election that has a lot of parallels to our current one, 1944. FDR was going for his fourth term. He played on past successes and was even stronger in denouncing his opponent as dangerous for the country than Bush is (David Broder described Bush as a "piker in comparison").

            After all of his successes, and being a wartime leader, FDR (Democrat) only won 53.39% of the vote to Thomas Dewey's (Republican) 45.89%. WaPo's tracking poll puts Bush at 51% and Kerry at 46% in comparison.

            The Texas Regulars won 0.28% of the vote. Who the hell are they? I haven't heard of them before.
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            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #21
              where are you finding those? I did a google search, but I can't find the one I'm looking for.

              post the 1960 results. That was a close one.

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              • #22
                edit: although mine's better

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                • #23
                  1960

                  Dude. Edit that out. It's screwing up the page.

                  The election of 1960 was a close one. A real nail biter.

                  John Kennedy (Democrat) took 49.72% of the vote to Richard Nixon's (Republican) 49.55% of the vote.

                  The electoral college shows some funky colors because there were some unpledged Democratic electors in the South (Dixicrat holdouts?).
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                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #24
                    my map shows Byrd, and Independant winning Mississippi and part of Alabama (I"m assuming the electors split their vote), and also 1 elector in Oklahoma went with Byrd.

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                    • #25

                      Here's an election we don't hear about much -- 1916. The Socialist candidate got 3.19% of the popular vote and was the difference between Woodrow Wilson (Democrat, red @ 49.24% of the vote) and Charles Hughes (Republican, blue @ 46.12% of the vote).

                      The high water mark for the socialists in the US was the good economic times of 1920. Eugene Debs garnered 3.41% of the popular vote.


                      IIRC, the Socialists got ~6% in 1912. That was a divisive election.
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • #26
                        East v. West

                        You know, it seems like most of our presidential elections are really close. Have been for about 150 years.

                        Here's a fun electoral map. 1976. A really close election. Jimmy Carter scores 50.08% of the vote to Gerald Ford's 48.02% of the vote.

                        Luckily, Republican California and the rest of the West didn't seceed from the Union.
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                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          Re: East v. West

                          Originally posted by DanS
                          You know, it seems like most of our presidential elections are really close. Have been for about 150 years.

                          Here's a fun electoral map. 1976. A really close election. Jimmy Carter scores 50.08% of the vote to Gerald Ford's 48.02% of the vote.

                          Luckily, Republican California and the rest of the West didn't seceed from the Union.
                          you sure the colors didn't reverse? I thought the south was voting republican at this point (after the democrats supported civil rights reforms in the 60's the south went from voting democratic to republican)

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                          • #28
                            IRC, the Socialists got ~6% in 1912. That was a divisive election.
                            You are correct, sir. I hadn't caught that. 1912 is a free-for-all -- a lot like 1992.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #29
                              Nope. Carter had a lot of Southern support in '76 (and he was a Georgian, running against a Yankee, mind you). In the previous relatively close election, '68, Humphrey won a few deep Southern states.
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                              -Bokonon

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                              • #30
                                Ramo: He has the colors reversed.
                                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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