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What exactly is the big deal with stem cells when now research on the subject has been banned? 
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I listened to the debate on radio as I was in the car at the time. I thought that Bush sounded much better than Kerry in that medium."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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It hasn't been banned. It's been severely curtailed, because Bush won't allow new lines to be produced for further study."In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, HyperionComment
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This has caused a movement of experts in the field to Europe too, since the resources there are now much, much better.Originally posted by dv8ed
It hasn't been banned. It's been severely curtailed, because Bush won't allow new lines to be produced for further study.
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To be fair though, you are really biased towards Bush.Originally posted by PLATO
I listened to the debate on radio as I was in the car at the time. I thought that Bush sounded much better than Kerry in that medium.
-Drachasor"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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Kerry won, but not by as much as Debate 1. Bush though really is out of his element on style. That's how he won points in the 2000 debates, now he's losing points based on them.
Though the best part was the embryonic stem cell research where Bush said it's killing life and in the same breath that he was the first president to approve using embryonic stem cells. When Kerry call him on it, Bush said they were already killed.
So, Mr. President, it's ok to experiment on them if they've already been killed? That really bolsters your we can't do it because it is killing life claim.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.â€
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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That's true...but only because I believe many of the same things he does. Perhaps I was fearful of a repeat performance from the 1st debate and was pleasantly suprised.Originally posted by Drachasor
To be fair though, you are really biased towards Bush.
-Drachasor"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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I think Bush is really going to be taking a continued beating with his standing among swing voters. May this dirty neo-con garbage die with his presidency.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Kerry won, but not by as much as Debate 1. Bush though really is out of his element on style. That's how he won points in the 2000 debates, now he's losing points based on them.
To be fair though, he did have a point. When this issue had to be decided those lines were already in existence, so the original embryos for the lines had already 'died'.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Though the best part was the embryonic stem cell research where Bush said it's killing life and in the same breath that he was the first president to approve using embryonic stem cells. When Kerry call him on it, Bush said they were already killed.
So, Mr. President, it's ok to experiment on them if they've already been killed? That really bolsters your we can't do it because it is killing life claim.
Of course, this fails to address why you can't use embryos from fertility clinics that are going to get tossed out anyhow.
-Drachasor"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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Funny how someone can recognize the enormous potential of a research field and still have ethical questions about it.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Kerry won, but not by as much as Debate 1. Bush though really is out of his element on style. That's how he won points in the 2000 debates, now he's losing points based on them.
Though the best part was the embryonic stem cell research where Bush said it's killing life and in the same breath that he was the first president to approve using embryonic stem cells. When Kerry call him on it, Bush said they were already killed.
So, Mr. President, it's ok to experiment on them if they've already been killed? That really bolsters your we can't do it because it is killing life claim."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Funny how someone can recognize the enormous potential of a research field and still have ethical questions about it.
Yeah, but if you have ethical questions about embroynic stem cell research you wouldn't authorize research on it just because, oh, those are already dead.
That's a hypocritical position.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.â€
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Let me see,
1st debate -
Kerry B
Bush D-
VP debate -
Cheney B+
Edwards B-
2nd debate -
Kerry B-
Bush CComment
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They were already dead when the issue came before him, why is he a hypocrite for authorising the use of dead embryos? It would be hypocritical if he refused to authorise their use since he supports organ donor programs and the relevant principle is the same.So, Mr. President, it's ok to experiment on them if they've already been killed? That really bolsters your we can't do it because it is killing life claim.Comment
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