Political Compass

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight
Take a look at all the problems in the world right now. Everything from Russia to Africa to Southeast Asia to the US, every problem can be attributed to Muslim extremism.

Auschwitz for every member of the Muslimo-Bolchevist Internationale!

[MalevolentLight]

I don't see you speaking out against Islamic extremism or starting protests or anything of the sort. If you go along with it you are compliant and therefore no better than they are. While there are some good muslims out there they are few and far between and they never speak out or start protests against Islamic extremism. Everytime I see people cheering a beheading I can't help but think to myself "Why don't we just wipe out these animals?". Iraq is really the easiest country of all to liberate and look at the trouble we are having. Imagine trying to change a place like Saudi Arabia and change the mindset of the animals that inhabit there? I just don't ever see it happening and as more and more terrorist attacks happen I have to question why we are being so patient with a people that are out to kill us and impose their barbaric ways on the world.

[chequita guevara]

Atheism!

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a socially-orientated, materialist, internationalist, controlled-market kind of person, who also seems quite Marxist.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of Marxist. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Communism area.

No surprises there.

87 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social.

90 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist.

40 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government.

82 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist.

60 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist.

25 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market.

21 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist.

on that last one.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

That's why I'm asking you about real world problems. If there are no real world problems regarding this special case than who cares about it.

Well I think there would always be real world problems in where looking at the minimum isn't the best idea (at least IMO). Things that would be affected are taxes and welfare (if we look at the least advantaged member, we want them to make much more than they do right now on welfare, and we'd want those who make more than the mean pay for them). That, I guess, would be the beginning.

Come on Imran. Don't make this hard. Give me a policy that would give a small benefit to 99% and charge 1% a small amount. Tell me why the Theory of Justice would reject it.

And this fits you prefered ethical model, and why?

Because all this talk about 'natural' rights, I find silly. I don't think they exist, and I think power is really the only basis for them. Though I do agree there needs to be rights, I think the basis are through humanity. And I think it is in people's interests to curtail individual political power through its right-making authority.

I wouldn't say I'm totally a utilitarian, though I do have some of those tendancies. For instance, I believe strongly in freedom of speech, even if it hurts more people than it helps (like when the Klan wants to march), because I believe that power severly curtails the political power of those who are on top in the government.

Let me go back, because trying to get a fix on your ethics seems impossible. Although, I'm starting to see that Agathon was right. you are really just a conservative. I don't even think that's an ethical model though.

You said that the minorities are screwed in a system where the powerfull get to determine which rights people will have, but that the powerfull sometimes feel guilty and grant the minorities rights. When the powerfull do so, aren't they just doing what the Rawlsian model suggests?

[Natalinasmpf]

ALLAH WILL UNITE THE PROLETERIAT, OVERTHROWING THE BOURGEOISIE!

[chequita guevara]

There is no god but the living proletariat!

[Provost Harrison]

I'll just use the results from the last one, I am not going through all that yet again

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08

Go Trotsky, go!

[MalevolentLight]

Not really. Even if the supposedly (Muslim-run? hardly) OPEC cartel got dissolved and oil was everywhere, it wouldn't solve pollution, or energy. Sure, it would make energy cheaper, but it wouldn't solve its deficit.

Don't forget, a lot of problems are also solved by Islam. Many Arab inventors invented because in order to explore their relationship with Allah: Algebra, Calculus, mathematical concepts....

I could say, all the world problems right now can be attributed to American Imperialism, blatant oppression, capitalism and plutocracy, and the creeping Orwellianism and denial of rights found in Guantanamo Bay. Hypocrisy. Human rights violations. Ruthless suppression of dissent. Massacres. Unnecessary civilian casualties. Dropping depleted Uranium shells in civilian water supplies.

Its not that Islam is at fault....the evil US Imperialists are at cause. Islam is only provided a justification REACTION against the oppressive US Imperialism. Worldwide revolutionary Jihad against decadence and imperialism.

You threatened to kill me in one of your posts, thank you for proving my point. The fact is the Islamic world hasn't contributed anything other than oil in the past 300 years. You are a relic even more so than Europe. Your countries are some of the poorest in the world and rather than taking responsibility for your own shortcomings you blame it all on the West and the Imperialist US devil.

As for Guantanamo Bay, they are eating the same stuff our troops are. Our treatment of terrorists is far better than your treatment of us. You chop off heads, we simply throw you in a cage where you belong. I love your last line there, it pretty much sums up the problem with the Islamic scum. You want a Jihad with us, come and get it. While you maybe be able to shoot some kids in the back while they run, we have the power to wipe your entire people off the face of the earth. How's that for Jihad?

[Provost Harrison]

Oh Jesus, now Europe is a relic too. Are you another one of those people who have never got beyond the shores of your own country?

[Natalinasmpf]

I don't see you speaking out against Islamic extremism or starting protests or anything of the sort. If you go along with it you are compliant and therefore no better than they are. While there are some good muslims out there they are few and far between and they never speak out or start protests against Islamic extremism. Everytime I see people cheering a beheading I can't help but think to myself "Why don't we just wipe out these animals?". Iraq is really the easiest country of all to liberate and look at the trouble we are having. Imagine trying to change a place like Saudi Arabia and change the mindset of the animals that inhabit there? I just don't ever see it happening and as more and more terrorist attacks happen I have to question why we are being so patient with a people that are out to kill us and impose their barbaric ways on the world.

"Few and far between?"

I beg to differ. In case you didn't know, they do stage protests against extremism. Before going ahead and generalising again, you should lose some ignorance - have you seen the religious messages inside the mosques here? The Muslims here actively campaign against the extreme violence of the terrorists who campaign in the name of their religion....

Get out of the well, you frog.

I don't approve of the terrorist actions, but I am rather sympathetic to them, because such actions are mere expected reactions to blatant US Imperialism. If people in the name of Islam have done "x units" much terrible things, I think the US has done ten times as much such terrible things in the name of "freedom and democracy".

Everytime I see US inhabitants who frequently diss other countries, arrogantly boast of how they'd whip or crudely refer to other countries, I can't help think why the UN doesn't expel the US from the General Assembly. By now with the World Wars, we should know nationalism brings disaster. Why are we being so patient with a country and system that only seeks to bring oppression, violence, disaster and hatred and ignorance upon the world?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
ALLAH WILL UNITE THE PROLETERIAT, OVERTHROWING THE BOURGEOISIE!

The idea of a God is a simple tool of the bourgeoisie. You aren't making any sense.

[Natalinasmpf]

You threatened to kill me in one of your posts, thank you for proving my point.

Uh, that was half-serious, mostly cynical and sarcastic.

Your countries are some of the poorest in the world

My country is one of the poorest in the world? I beg your pardon? Come out of your tortoise shell: Singapore is a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY.
We have a relatively high GDP per capita, slightly above the US. How can you even SAY one of the poorest in the world?

Your countries are some of the poorest in the world and rather than taking responsibility for your own shortcomings you blame it all on the West and the Imperialist US devil.

Not apologising for my own shortcomings does not eliminate the immense shortcomings of the US. Yes, we have shortcomings. I know which ones are from ourselves, and which are from the US. I know we are slightly authoritarian. I am not proud of that. However, looking at history, like selling weapons to governments of questionable nature, funding Fascist states, funding coups, funding contra-terrorism, supporting Reagan...a country whose elections are mostly influenced by large scale corporations, a country which has plunged into moral degeneration, a country which seeks to insinuate Orwellianism by justifiying it as a measure in the war on terror....

A strong Islamic reaction should be of no surprise in such cases.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight
You threatened to kill me in one of your posts, thank you for proving my point.

She's a Christian, dumbass.

[Natalinasmpf]

The idea of a God is a simple tool of the bourgeoisie. You aren't making any sense.

I am. The idea of God can be abused by the bourgeoisie to stay in power.

Drugs can be used to benefit health, it can be also be used to destroy health....if used wrongly. If people have worship God like they should (and if they don't, don't use him at all) - there would be no detriments, no would there?

(In the bible, God doesn't treat abuse of his name - blasphemy, lightly either. For example, if the bourgeoise says, pay us this much, or accept these wages, don't complain, because God says not to when conditions are already bad, then they will be punished.)

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
For example, if the bourgeoise says, pay us this much, or accept these wages, don't complain, because God says not to when conditions are already bad, then they will be punished.)

Yes, by not being able to go to Rock Candy Mountain. I'd like a little justice in this world.