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  • #46
    Make sure you wear a jimmy sack.
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ted Striker
      Are you going to take it up the pooper?
      WTF? I'm top.

      And not to mention, this is just a date with a guy I've been seeing for quite somes time.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #48
        Yeah right.

        You know you are bottom full time.
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Ted Striker
          Yeah right.

          You know you are bottom full time.
          Ask Glonkie.

          Okay you win.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Ramo
            Yep. That WaPo article completely ignores the significance of the speech
            Considering the fact it was quite obviously written before the speech, that's hardly suprising. However it hardly invalidates the point.

            There's no flipflopping, because dumbasses like Shrum have been preventing Kerry from actually articulating an opinion on the matter before.
            That's the biggest pile of bull**** since the Iraq buying yellowcake rumor. He's taken at least 4 by my count based on how the political winds were flowing at the time.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #51
              Because the Bush adminstration is the most civil government out there because it supported the liberation of Iraq. You are for the murder of thousands of Iraqis.


              Weren't a thousand Iraqis murdered in the imperial conquest of Iraq?

              (I love getting a rise out of Fez)
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Giancarlo


                Ask Glonkie.

                Okay you win.
                I always win. Punk.


                Now make sure you wear a jimmy sack so I don't have to call your momma about it.
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  Because the Bush adminstration is the most civil government out there because it supported the liberation of Iraq. You are for the murder of thousands of Iraqis.


                  Weren't a thousand Iraqis murdered in the imperial conquest of Iraq?

                  (I love getting a rise out of Fez)
                  Blah blah blah blah... blah blah blah..
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #54
                    However it hardly invalidates the point.


                    No, it doesn't. The relevant issue is not whether or not Iraq should be invaded, it's what to do now. Last I checked, Kerry doesn't have a time machine laying around.

                    That's the biggest pile of bull**** since the Iraq buying yellowcake rumor. He's taken at least 4 by my count based on how the political winds were flowing at the time.


                    No. He's until now pretty much ignored the specifics of occupation policy.
                    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                    -Bokonon

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker


                      I always win. Punk.


                      Now make sure you wear a jimmy sack so I don't have to call your momma about it.
                      I always have my partner wear protection, dude. and another thing is I don't do it that often with my guy. Almost not at all. It just isn't a turn on. Now enough about my personal life, and back to the sack of crap that came out of Kerry's mouth.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #56
                        I have yet to see any specifics about Kerry's flip flopping.

                        It's just tossed around as a generalization.

                        Probably because they don't have any real dirt on the guy.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #57
                          I always win. Punk.


                          Ted Striker
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #58
                            For me,
                            If Kerry even has a plan is only a bonus.
                            It seems that the current administration either does not have a plan or the one they have is not working. That means that the current administration needs to be replaced. The only remaining choice is Kerry. If Kucinich or Mccain or anyone else were running they would also get my vote before I could vote for the current admininstration.
                            This issue is to serious for party politics and useless propaganda. I'm basing my vote solely on the Iraq situation. The one were lives are at stake.

                            The stated reason for the invasion of iraq was the removal of weapons of mass destruction. The whole world was assured that Iraq had them and this was the case against Iraq. No WEAPONS were found. That means the case for war goes out the window. Liberation of Iraq is bull****. Apparently, the Iraqi's don't like the U.S. brand of liberation or it's not liberation. Either way B.S.

                            If Kerry wanted to send home all U.S. troops leaving Iraq in chaos fine by me.

                            If Kerry wants to increase U.S. involvement in Iraq to crush the Iraqi will to resist liberation fine by me.

                            Just do it in an honest, smart, forthright way that wil end the current situation.

                            Lastly, it's irksome to tie support of the U.S. with support for Iraq. Iraq is not the 51st state an americans owe no allegiance to Iraq, there people, or the Iraqi government. The U.S. armed forces do not swear an oath to protect them or any country other than the U.S.
                            What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
                            What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Ted Striker
                              I have yet to see any specifics about Kerry's flip flopping.
                              Then your not looking.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • #60
                                Well show me then.
                                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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