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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Reagan killed a lot more people.
Reagan killed a lot more people.
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By and large they killed each other. He just figured out how to benefit from it.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Not really, people loved Reagan in a way, during his Presidency, that no other president of our time has seen. His overwhelming landslide victory for a second term shows this.Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I think it's because the folks here have the luxury of looking back at Reagan's adminstration in hindsight, while they are living through Bush's. Reagan is certainly viewed more favorably now than he was during his Presidency. If you sent a lot of these "love Reagan" folks back in time, I think you'd find they'd turn into "hate Reagan" folks. They're just aping the conventional wisdom of the times.
BTW, I agree with you Boshko. Reagan and Bush are similar on many levels, so similar as to make pronouncements that Reagan is the greatest president ever and Bush is the worst ever look mighty silly.
Sorry, playa...
There were also "Reagan democrats," people who voted for Reagan who were Democrats. Alot of people who voted for Reagan said that he was the first President that they ever voted for.
Reagan gave us all confidence, we were proud of being Americans and we always knew we would prevail.
It's more than just "looking back at the good times."
In terms of saying "Bush and Reagan are the same," it is BUSH who has PERVERTED the ideals of Reagan and poorly implemented them. This is what makes me more sick about him than anything, he took the wonderful gifts that Reagan worked so hard to bring to America and he has squandered them irresponsibly.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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It's more of his "with us or against us," 5th grade oratory skills.Originally posted by DinoDoc
That's more a fuction of the 2000 election than anything else. There's still a delusion that the Republicans stole that election. That's naturally going to provoke hostility then we throw in Democratic revenge for the rabid Clinton hatred among Republicans and you can start to see how even The Reagan would be faced with such "divisivness."We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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His overwhelming landslide victory for a second term shows this.
What will it mean if Bush wins by a landslide? Will it be because he was beloved by the American people, or because his opponent was as incompetent as Mondale?KH FOR OWNER!
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I knew you'd pull out the Mondale card.
I don't think he is going to win by a landslide.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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I knew you'd pull out the Mondale card.
Of course I was going to pull out the Mondale card, playa. It's the obvious rebuttal...
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Really? Reagan had more overwhelming support from the people than any other president in recent history, with the possible exception of FDR. He outscored his opponents in the electoral college 1014 to 62.Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I think it's because the folks here have the luxury of looking back at Reagan's adminstration in hindsight, while they are living through Bush's. Reagan is certainly viewed more favorably now than he was during his Presidency. If you sent a lot of these "love Reagan" folks back in time, I think you'd find they'd turn into "hate Reagan" folks. They're just aping the conventional wisdom of the times.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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wordOriginally posted by Ted Striker
Not really, people loved Reagan in a way, during his Presidency, that no other president of our time has seen. His overwhelming landslide victory for a second term shows this.
There were also "Reagan democrats," people who voted for Reagan who were Democrats. Alot of people who voted for Reagan said that he was the first President that they ever voted for.
Reagan gave us all confidence, we were proud of being Americans and we always knew we would prevail.
It's more than just "looking back at the good times."
In terms of saying "Bush and Reagan are the same," it is BUSH who has PERVERTED the ideals of Reagan and poorly implemented them. This is what makes me more sick about him than anything, he took the wonderful gifts that Reagan worked so hard to bring to America and he has squandered them irresponsibly."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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He outscored his opponents in the electoral college 1014 to 62.
Yeah, he outscored Carter and Mondale. Wow.
Go read about Reagan's presidency. He was intensely hated by the left inside America and generally overseas because of his belligerant foreign policy, among other things. Sound like anyone else you know?KH FOR OWNER!
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But what if they're both Mondale?Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
His overwhelming landslide victory for a second term shows this.
What will it mean if Bush wins by a landslide? Will it be because he was beloved by the American people, or because his opponent was as incompetent as Mondale?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Ronnie turned me from a Republican to a communist.Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Go read about Reagan's presidency. He was intensely hated by the left inside America and generally overseas because of his belligerant foreign policy, among other things. Sound like anyone else you know?
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Reagan's record is as ****ty as Bush's.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Outscoring people at a 16 to 1 ratioOriginally posted by Drake Tungsten
He outscored his opponents in the electoral college 1014 to 62.
Yeah, he outscored Carter and Mondale. Wow.
Go read about Reagan's presidency. He was intensely hated by the left inside America and generally overseas because of his belligerant foreign policy, among other things. Sound like anyone else you know?
Kicking Carter out
Annoying the extreme left
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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Optimism was a big item. Especially at that time. Not only was there the aftermath of Vietnam, but there were growing expectations that JapanCo. would kick Americas commercial butt.Originally posted by Boshko
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Reagan = optimism
Bush = "scary terrorists want to kill us"
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Right, in a lot of ways that Bush is bad Reagan was less bad. That I can understand. But saying that Reagan was very good but Bush is very bad confuses the hell out of me.
Then there is...
didn't get the US Army involved in a land war in Asia (always a big plus).
his approach to the Soviets. If they wanted to play, he'd be happy to spend them into the grave. However, when cracks appeared he didn't ignore the opportunity to talk. Talk he did, the Wall fell, and the Cold War ended with a whimper, and not a very large bang.
Put it this way. He contributed greatly to restoring America's faith in itself AND he conducted a foreign policy that resulted in former enemies becoming something close to friends.
Do you see a difference in results between he and Bush so far?(\__/)
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Do you see a difference in results between he and Bush so far?
Yeah, Bush has accomplished far more in his first four years than Reagan did. Makes me wonder how his presidency will be viewed 20 years from now.KH FOR OWNER!
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