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  • Originally posted by DaShi
    China needs North Korea. It's like the average looking girl who has an ugly friend to make her look better.
    Clearly your analogy is deeply flawed

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    • I should take some pictures
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      • Originally posted by Patroklos
        If I had a penny every time a poytubbie advocated invading NK before Iraq I would be rich.

        /me glances at Location.

        Shouldn't you be on leave or something?
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        • Originally posted by DaShi
          I should take some pictures
          Perhaps I should drive around Mormon country and take some pictures as well.

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          • Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


            Perhaps I should drive around Mormon country and take some pictures as well.

            To quote Jaguar, pwnd.
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            • DPRK now claiming that the explosion was them "demolishing" a mountain in order to continuw work on a hydroelectric dam project. British ambassador has requested to visit cite. DPRK has said they will consider request.
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              • Isnt it easier to work around them
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                • Originally posted by Q Cubed

                  nobody i know seriously contemplates an NK/US war... at least, not in regards to regime change in NK...
                  Dubya.
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                  • Originally posted by mrmitchell
                    China? Does China like having an unstable nuclear crackpot at their border?
                    They've gotten used to Russia over the years.
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                    • * Lonestar glances at Location.

                      Shouldn't you be on leave or something?
                      Just got back, and oh how I hate work.
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                      • DPRK now claiming that the explosion was them "demolishing" a mountain in order to continuw work on a hydroelectric dam project.
                        That's some hydroelectric project.
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                        • Originally posted by PLATO


                          The antiquated artillery that DPRK deploys would be completely nutralized within hours. The establishment of Air Force "kill zones" and Paladin counterfire would devastate this facit of the DPRK military.
                          The mountanous terrain makes getting a good bearing difficult, plus the north has underground bunkers into which guns can be brought back in, and very heavy AAA fire would endanger low flying aircraft. That, and in a few hours Seoul, a city of 10 million would see massive damage.
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                          • Originally posted by GePap


                            The mountanous terrain makes getting a good bearing difficult, plus the north has underground bunkers into which guns can be brought back in, and very heavy AAA fire would endanger low flying aircraft. That, and in a few hours Seoul, a city of 10 million would see massive damage.
                            This type of artillery "hardening" is exactly what Paladin was designed for. While there is no doubt that Seoul would suffer significant damage, the DPRK artillery would be short lived as a massive offensive force. Paladin counterfire is pretty quick and DPRK would not have time to move artillery back into bunkers. Not to mention that B1 and B2 strikes with "bunker buster" bombs would make these not very pleasant places to be. That being said...what a horrible war that would be for all. We can only hope that China will excersise whatever influence they have to keep the genie in the bottle.
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                            • Then why the hell is going after him some great impossible?

                              the roughly ~20 million people in one of the east asia's, if not the world's largest economic and industrial centers within range of artillery...

                              The antiquated artillery that DPRK deploys would be completely nutralized within hours. The establishment of Air Force "kill zones" and Paladin counterfire would devastate this facit of the DPRK military.

                              The real danger lies in the possibility of a nuke strike. This possibility, while relatively remote now, will only grow.

                              while you might have no problems placing someone else's life and someone else's country in as yet somewhat un(battle)proven technologies...
                              and it's facet.
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                              • Originally posted by PLATO


                                This type of artillery "hardening" is exactly what Paladin was designed for. While there is no doubt that Seoul would suffer significant damage, the DPRK artillery would be short lived as a massive offensive force. Paladin counterfire is pretty quick and DPRK would not have time to move artillery back into bunkers. Not to mention that B1 and B2 strikes with "bunker buster" bombs would make these not very pleasant places to be. That being said...what a horrible war that would be for all. We can only hope that China will excersise whatever influence they have to keep the genie in the bottle.
                                First of all- I doubt we would have all our paladins in the ROK, and since the NK has over 4500 pieces of artillery and rocket systems, I must seriously question any notion that "within hours" their massive artillery would be out of commission. In fact, I think that thought in the realm of fantasy. as for B2, those are 14 hours away in Missiouri, and go after predetermined targets, not targets of opportunity, and could onyl hit a few, not hundreds. The B1's might be closer, but again would take hours to get into theater and hit their pre-assigned targets. You don;t call B2's and B1's for support.
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