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  • Originally posted by pchang


    You need to stay awake long enough to catch the West Coast games.
    I have. Cal is the best team I have seen play out on that coast. They should have beat USC. The fact is that they didn't and that makes it impossible to put them ahead of an undefeated likely SEC champion. USC is vastly overrated IMHO. They show brilliance against weak opponents but seem to play poorly against stiff competetion.

    After today's display, that obviously isn't the case for the Tigers.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • Originally posted by Grandpa Troll


      Well..I am an ACC (which means zioppo this year) follower

      How does their schedule match up with Auburn? (USC & Oklahoma)

      Thanks

      Gramps
      USC:

      Aug 28 at Virginia Tech W, 24-13
      Sep 11 vs Colorado State W, 49-0
      Sep 18 at BYU W, 42-10
      Sep 25 at Stanford W, 31-28
      Oct 9 vs California W, 23-17
      Oct 16 vs Arizona State W, 45-7
      Oct 23 vs Washington W, 38-0
      Oct 30 at Washington State W, 42-12
      Nov 6 at Oregon State W, 28-20
      Nov 13 vs Arizona 10:15 PM
      Nov 27 vs Notre Dame 8:00 PM
      Dec 4 at UCLA 4:30 PM

      Oklahoma:

      Sep 4 vs Bowling Green W, 40-24
      Sep 11 vs Houston W, 63-13
      Sep 18 vs Oregon W, 31-7
      Oct 2 vs Texas Tech W, 28-13
      Oct 9 vs Texas W, 12-0
      Oct 16 at Kansas State W, 31-21
      Oct 23 vs Kansas W, 41-10
      Oct 30 at Oklahoma State W, 38-35
      Nov 6 at Texas A&M W, 42-35
      Nov 13 vs Nebraska 7:00 PM
      Nov 20 at Baylor 12:00 PM

      Auburn:

      Sep 4 vs Louisiana Monroe W, 31-0
      Sep 11 at Mississippi St. W, 43-14
      Sep 18 vs LSU W, 10-9
      Sep 25 vs The Citadel W, 33-3
      Oct 2 at Tennessee W, 34-10
      Oct 9 vs Louisiana Tech W, 52-7
      Oct 16 vs Arkansas W, 38-20
      Oct 23 vs Kentucky W, 42-10
      Oct 30 at Mississippi W, 35-14
      Nov 13 vs Georgia W, 24-6
      Nov 20 at Alabama 3:30 PM
      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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      • I went to Cal, so of course I am biased. But.....
        every team has close calls, but what counts is getting the win. Oklahoma's cornerbacks are suspect. I think they would get beat by a team that can pass protect and go long (like USC and Cal). I do not see any obvious weaknesses in USC. In addition, USC has the greatest team speed I have seen. If I had a vote, it would be
        1. USC
        2. Auburn
        3. OU
        4. Cal
        It is my fervent hope that USC and Auburn meet in the national championship game (and that way, Cal gets to go to the Rose Bowl).
        “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

        ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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        • Nov 13 vs Nebraska 7:00 PM


          That should be "Nov 13 vs Nebraska W, 30-3"...
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          • Originally posted by PLATO


            USC:

            Aug 28 at Virginia Tech W, 24-13
            Sep 11 vs Colorado State W, 49-0
            Sep 18 at BYU W, 42-10
            Sep 25 at Stanford W, 31-28
            Oct 9 vs California W, 23-17
            Oct 16 vs Arizona State W, 45-7
            Oct 23 vs Washington W, 38-0
            Oct 30 at Washington State W, 42-12
            Nov 6 at Oregon State W, 28-20
            Nov 13 vs Arizona 10:15 PM
            Nov 27 vs Notre Dame 8:00 PM
            Dec 4 at UCLA 4:30 PM

            Oklahoma:

            Sep 4 vs Bowling Green W, 40-24
            Sep 11 vs Houston W, 63-13
            Sep 18 vs Oregon W, 31-7
            Oct 2 vs Texas Tech W, 28-13
            Oct 9 vs Texas W, 12-0
            Oct 16 at Kansas State W, 31-21
            Oct 23 vs Kansas W, 41-10
            Oct 30 at Oklahoma State W, 38-35
            Nov 6 at Texas A&M W, 42-35
            Nov 13 vs Nebraska 7:00 PM
            Nov 20 at Baylor 12:00 PM

            Auburn:

            Sep 4 vs Louisiana Monroe W, 31-0
            Sep 11 at Mississippi St. W, 43-14
            Sep 18 vs LSU W, 10-9
            Sep 25 vs The Citadel W, 33-3
            Oct 2 at Tennessee W, 34-10
            Oct 9 vs Louisiana Tech W, 52-7
            Oct 16 vs Arkansas W, 38-20
            Oct 23 vs Kentucky W, 42-10
            Oct 30 at Mississippi W, 35-14
            Nov 13 vs Georgia W, 24-6
            Nov 20 at Alabama 3:30 PM
            well..at least we have One thing in common with USC
            N C State beat Virginia Tech..um..well..Brandon Pace missed a last minute field goal giving the Wolfpack a Win

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            • 1. Auburn
              2. USC
              3. Utah
              4. Oklahoma
              5. California
              6. Michigan

              And then there is a huge, HUGE dropoff to whoever number 7 is. Depending on my mood, what I had to eat for dinner, and the phase of the moon, it could be either Texas, Wisconsin, Boise State, or Louisville.


              I honestly think that 1-6, it is nigh impossible to determine which team is best. Cal and Michigan are at the bottom simply because they have a loss to their credit, but both could easily beat any of the undefeated teams. Oklahoma's defense has been suspect (giving up 3 points to Nebraska proves nothing), which is why I have them at #4, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see them win the National Championship.


              The National Championship game should be great this year, but if the Rose Bowl ends up being Cal vs. Michigan, I guarantee that will end up being the most exciting, well-played game of the BCS.
              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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              • Originally posted by pchang

                It is my fervent hope that USC and Auburn meet in the national championship game (and that way, Cal gets to go to the Rose Bowl).
                Mine to. i would love to see a Michigan-Cal matchup. Of course, I love anyone who makes the BIG preTENders look bad.
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • Originally posted by Guynemer
                  1. Auburn
                  2. USC
                  3. Utah
                  4. Oklahoma
                  5. California
                  6. Michigan

                  and then there is a huge, HUGE dropoff to whoever number 7 is. Depending on my mood, what I had to eat for dinner, and the phase of the moon, it could be either Texas, Wisconsin, Boise State, or Louisville.
                  The only question I would have is Utah. They are untested against first level competition. They do have a good team though.
                  "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                  • I grant they haven't played the level of competition the other top six teams have, but no team has looked more dominant week in and week out. That's why I give them the nod over Oklahoma.
                    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                    • With Wisconsin and Georgia losing, Utah will definitely climb back into the top 6 BCS rankings. We will see how Utah does against a top rate school in their bowl game.

                      I hope they win since that will raise more public outcry for a playoff.
                      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                      • Originally posted by Guynemer
                        I grant they haven't played the level of competition the other top six teams have, but no team has looked more dominant week in and week out. That's why I give them the nod over Oklahoma.
                        I guess that it would be hard to disagree with that, but it is still a huge question IMO.
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • I don't disagree with you. It is a huge question.

                          If they win out, they will absolutely DESTROY whatever piece of trash the Big East sends to the BCS. (Assuming that's what the matchup will be, which seems likely.)
                          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                          • Well, if Utah's BCS opponent is the Big East winner, I take back my previous post. Big East sucks donkey balls this year.
                            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                            • Utah's Schedule:

                              Sep 2 vs Texas A&M W, 41-21
                              Sep 11 at Arizona W, 23-6
                              Sep 18 at Utah State W, 48-6
                              Sep 25 vs Air Force W, 49-35
                              Oct 1 at New Mexico W, 28-7
                              Oct 16 vs North Carolina W, 46-16
                              Oct 23 vs UNLV W, 63-28
                              Oct 30 at San Diego State W, 51-28
                              Nov 6 vs Colorado State W, 63-31
                              Nov 13 at Wyoming 7:00 PM
                              Nov 20 vs BYU TBA



                              The Big East does suck, but it is likely to provide Utah's stiffest test of the season.
                              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                              • I don't think Utah will get a BCS berth. Georgia was ranked lower in the standings.

                                Michigan will jump ahead of Utah, you watch.

                                Utah will go to the Liberty Bowl and play Louisville. Which should be a very fun game to watch.....but not as lucrative as a BCS game.

                                I am a Utes fan, BTW.

                                ACK!
                                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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