So much for "ABC and CBS PWN BUSH"

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Take it up with the 1000 polled participants.

[Dauphin]

How many of those 1,000 actually read or watch those given media though? I mean to say, how many people who consider FOX news as biased towards Kerry are liable to be watching CBS at all.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Take it up with the 1000 polled participants.

what is it about 1000 monkeys on typewriters? Oh, they come up with opinion polls- I forgot that one.

[pchang]

Stop saying things I don't want to hear. Blah Blah Blah I can't hear you..............

[GePap]

WHAT? WHAT?

[GePap]

I forgot to label:

from left to right:

CNN, Fox News, MSNBC

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap
I know, reporting the facts of the current world and local situation is so damned biased!

When will the press learn to stop reporting facts that show the president's admin. has been a failure!? Don't they see their role is not to report, but to make sure everyone thinks they aren't biased? (a perception, of course, based on personal biases interestingly enough)

GePap, I think you are not being honest with yourself.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by GePap
I forgot to label:

from left to right:

CNN, Fox News, MSNBC

I never realized MSNBC was more right than Fox, I guess Fox is fair and balanced.

[pchang]

I think he means that:

CNN doesn't film anything

Fox News doesn't interview anyone

MSNBC doesn't broadcast anymore

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by GePap


what is it about 1000 monkeys on typewriters? Oh, they come up with opinion polls- I forgot that one.

What is with you and typewriters? Is it an IBM selectric circa 1972?



I suppose given a thousand monkeys, they probably could forge a Killian memo and get it put on national broadcast news.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

GePap,

Score card via polls says volumes (perception being reality and all that jazz)

Tell me do you also look at a sporting event score and likewise make excuses such as well we would have won if it wasn't so windy, or we would have won if our quarterback didn't suck so bad?

On second thought you are an avid Dem, so the "we actually won they cheated" theme probably resonates strongly.

[pchang]

I told you so

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/22/cbs.mapes.ap/index.html

I told you Rather was going to throw Mapes under a bus.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


What is with you and typewriters? Is it an IBM selectric circa 1972?



I suppose given a thousand monkeys, they probably could forge a Killian memo and get it put on national broadcast news.

The monkeys are too busy writing the Bush plan for Iraq, and his coming environmental policies to worry about petty things.

[Ming]

Originally posted by GePap


The monkeys are too busy writing the Bush plan for Iraq, and his coming environmental policies to worry about petty things.

Good... maybe they will come up with a better plan for both

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

NYPOST OPED

A MS. MAPES MYSTERY

Wed Sep 22, 2:42 AM ET


As we asked yesterday: What did Dan Rather know?


And when did he know it?


And that was even before it was disclosed that CBS News' dubious source for those phony National Guard memos insisted on being put in touch directly with John Kerry (news - web sites)'s campaign — apparently as a condition for turning over the documents.


As USA Today reported in detail yesterday, CBS producer Mary Mapes arranged for Bill Burkett (who provided the forged documents) to speak with Joe Lockhart, the former Clinton press secretary who's now a top Kerry campaign adviser.


CBS claims hooking Burkett up with Lockhart "was not part of any deal" to get the memos, which producer Mapes had spent five fruitless years in search of.


Burkett, however, insists that the contact was indeed part of an "understanding" — without which he would not turn over the documents.


At this point, neither Burkett nor the network have much standing in the credibility department.


But even taking the network's claim at face value undercuts Rather's claim that using the documents — which he now says he regrets — was "an error that was made . . . in good faith."


Not to mention his insistence that this story was part of the "CBS News tradition of investigate reporting without fear or favoritism."


Simple common sense would have mandated that — faced with a demand by their source to involve the Kerry campaign — Rather and Mapes say flatly, "No way."


But they were so eager to get their hands on what they believed were explosive memos — supposedly proving once and for all that George W. Bush received special treatment in getting into the Air National Guard and then avoiding his full service obligation — that they agreed to anything Burkett wanted.


Burkett said he wanted to advise the Democrats on how to respond to the questions being raised about Kerry's own military record. To that end, he also was able to get former Sen. Max Cleland, a Kerry confidante, and ex-presidential candidate Howard Dean (news - web sites) on the phone over the last 45 days.


How did he manage that?


And while Lockhart insists that the documents were never mentioned in their conversation, he conceded "it's possible" Mapes just happened to mention the memos when she asked him to give Burkett a call.


Yesterday, he explained it this way: Mapes asked Lockhart to speak to "a guy who is being helpful on this story," adding that she just happened to mention that "there are some records that might move the story forward" without telling him what they said.


Maybe CBS isn't the only one with a credibility problem.





"The fact that CBS News would coordinate with the most senior levels of Sen. Kerry's campaign to attack the president is a stunning and deeply troubling revelation," said the White House.

That's putting it mildly.

Indeed, the more we learn about this whole sordid episode, the more disturbing it becomes.

What else is CBS hiding?

Seems Mapes let on they (being CBS) had documents to Lockhart afterall. Not an innocent you may wanna talk to this guy.

Collusion?