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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
I've never been turned down for being intact. That argument smacks of blue-balled desperation.
I've never been turned down for being intact. That argument smacks of blue-balled desperation.
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It smacks of humour to me."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I've been to four (my brothers and my cousin). All were good as gold. Apparently so was I, except for urinating on the guy that was doing itI've been to a Bris before, the baby's screams hurt my ear...it seemed very very cruel to me.
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Not a medical necessity to remove it however. It will fall off of its own accord as a child may later decide to have himself circumsized but doctors will often remove the cord though.If that's to me, I did use the caveat of medical necessity, which I think works the other way round. It can be done unless you've said not to.
Castration?Lotm, castration is a harmless permanent change (eunichs of almost every mammal species including primates tend to live a bit longer than their intact brethern) but would not castration still constitute a violation? Just because something doesn't kill or disable you doesn't make it harmless.
You say most implying that some remain, including the biggy of less risk of some STI's. However, there are other non-medical arguments that would not allow it to be rendered pointless.Most medical reasons for it have gone away with modern hygiene and medical advances. Nowadays there's absolutely no good reason so it's wrong."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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What should they do if they are unhappy with their cut member? I guess maybe this is a serious issue after all.Originally posted by Pekka
But I'm not really fanatic about it. If you have a cut penis, I don't think any less of you. Good for you. IF you're happy with it, that's all that really counts. And it's yours, so you should be happy with it
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Has anyone here ever been told he'll need to have surgery before the lady (or gentleman) making the request condescends to allow them in their knickers?
If that did occur, did you willing become their *****?The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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The definition of natural as without outiside stimulus is culturally bound. Its "natural" to be parented, even from an Aristotelian point of view, and certainly from a Jewish and Muslim point of view. We extend parenting also to physical changes.Originally posted by Drogue
No, my definition of what natural is without outside stimulus. Without intervention, a child would not be circumsized.
As for FGM, that is different because of real loss of significant functionality."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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No, noOriginally posted by Geronimo
You can't take a meaningful poll. Chicks don't want to tell you what you don't want to hear when it's something you could do nothing about. And Chicks learn to love whatever is attached to the man they love. They usually don't seem to be as shallow about this kind of thing as most guys are. Anyway if being cut meant a guy was more likely to get some then evolution would have easily removed the foreskin entirely by now.
It has always been several girls at a time that I asked, and none that I was involved with. I didn't tell them if I was cut or not.
I simply asked them which they preferred.
Sorry guys but they like the cut unit, just in the same way they prefer you to trim your Bavarian forest. It just looks alot cleaner.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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A piece of skin that denotes the religion you were born into.Originally posted by Whaleboy
If it was forced upon a child with the ability to be self-determined, for sure it would not be a consistent action, however a baby is not. Furthermore, it is not an inscription since no changes to the childs body that remains after the operation has occured, merely a piece of skin removed.
Functionality doesn't exist anymore, since people shower. Maybe in the 19th century you'd have a point. And it's just as conspicuous as some brandings, depending on where you put it. Say a branding of the penis, since that's closest.Originally posted by Whaleboy
Except that one is outweighed by functionality, the degree of show, and the fact that it is less conspicuous.... one is inflicted, another is simply a question of individual difference, like a birthmark, which the parent can change like an education where the child cannot determine itself.Smile
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They prefer what they're used to seeing. Girls (and gay guys) in Canada prefer uncut, since most people are uncut...Originally posted by Ted Striker
No, no
It has always been several girls at a time that I asked, and none that I was involved with. I didn't tell them if I was cut or not.
I simply asked them which they preferred.
Sorry guys but they like the cut unit, just in the same way they prefer you to trim your Bavarian forest. It just looks alot cleaner."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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That's YOUR argument, a one you just made up not mineOriginally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
I've never been turned down for being intact. That argument smacks of blue-balled desperation.
I am simply stating what I have been toldWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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I'll assume you dont know the historical background, but I wouldnt have used that phrase in this particular discussion.Originally posted by Drogue
Wow, poisoning the well today aren't we?
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Speak for yourself. I like women to look like women, not pubescent girls.Originally posted by Ted Striker
Sorry guys but they like the cut unit, just in the same way they prefer you to trim your Bavarian forest. It just looks alot cleaner.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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Me too.Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Speak for yourself. I like women to look like women, not pubescent girls.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
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Maybe, but I still think I'm right.Originally posted by Asher
They prefer what they're used to seeing. Girls (and gay guys) in Canada prefer uncut, since most people are uncut...
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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You guys are so 1970s, have fun with your dental floss and hairballs!!!!We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Natural:Originally posted by lord of the mark
Its a permanent change, but its NOT mutilation, if the uncircumsized state isnt privileged as "natural".
[adj] in accordance with nature; relating to or concerning nature; "a very natural development"; "our natural environment"; "natural science"; "natural resources"; "natural cliffs"; "natural phenomena"
[adj] existing in or produced by nature; not artificial or imitation;
Not some culturally biased thing, natural is in accordance with nature, without artificial intervention. Circumcision is artificial intervention.
Says who?Originally posted by lord of the mark
But parents are allowed to inflict temporary pain as part of parenting to achieve certain parenting objectives.Smile
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