Attackers seize Russian school

[muxec]

in a week, there were three notable terror acts in Russia.

And now take into account acts of terror that took place in Iraq and Israel this week

[alva]

They can't let the citizens kill these terrorists. They have to be taken to a dark hole and skinned until they give up who supplied and organized them. You have to get at the root or more will be back. The very culture that brought forth such monsters must be violently destroyed. WWII's carpet bombing comes to mind.

I understand why you say this, but killing more innocent kids isn't really a solution in my book.

[Lancer]

"Lancer is making sense."-Kidicious



Safety of the children is what civilization is all about. From the earliest stone age settlements it must have been the first thing. For the Russians and the world that safety is gone and we must do what it takes to get it back.

[Solver]

And now take into account acts of terror that took place in Iraq and Israel this week

Unrelevant. Terror acts in Israel or Iraq do not prove that there may be more in Russia shortly - it's the big amount of terror acts and terrorists in Russia itself.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by lightblue
If it is Al-Qaeda involvement where are they hiding nowadays that the Russians could go to war with? Afghanistan? Nominally under US friendly control, and I doubt the Russians would want to go there again. Pakistan? "Friendly" government, nuclear power.
Iraq? Uzbekistan?

Saif el adel, Operational head of AQ, and Saad Bin Laden (OBL's son, who also has an operational role), and others in Iran, theoretically under house arrest, though Michael Ledeen and others have claimed that they are essentially under Iranian protection and are directing operations from there. Admin has hinted at this but not come out openly with accusations (after iraq-WMD it would seem wise for the USto wait for very clear evidence - in any case our Army is overstretched anyway) Saudi has asked for these operatives to be extradited, while Iran has refused. Russia, one of Irans principle trade partners, could add its weight to the call for the extradition of these men.


WRT to Pakistan, its actions against AQ have occured due to US pressure, largely. Adding Russian pressure could add to Paki activity, although historically Russian relations with Paki have been poor.

[Lancer]

"I understand why you say this, but killing more innocent kids isn't really a solution in my book."

Children wouldn't be the target, that alone would be an improvement over the current situation.

What solution is in your book?

[muxec]

Stalin would remove all Chechnians to Siberia... In fact there are a lot of uranium mines that require workforce.

[alva]

What solution is in your book?

I'm not intelligent enough I'm afraid.

Children wouldn't be the target, that alone would be an improvement over the current situation.

You go after those that ARE responsible, not those who you think are or who could be.
THAT is the basis of civilisation.

[Colon™]

Originally posted by Lancer
Colon, I still would not announce a condemnation at this point. Those terrorists have an ability to exact revenge on Putin through those children, while Bush is not touchable. I would do exactly what Putin is doing. I would do nothing that might endanger the lives of the surviving child hostages. When it's over, I'd condemn it and go to war when I found out who is behind this, until there was no chance of such a thing ever happening again, and children can once again be safe in their own schools.

Last time they gassed half the hostages in their efforts to "settle" the crisis. So sorry, but I'm not really sharing your assumption that the silence is a deliberate tactic to safeguard lives. I'd rather believe they're clueless.

[Lancer]

"You go after those that ARE responsible, not those who you think are or who could be.
THAT is the basis of civilisation."

Works for me.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by muxec
I think that Turkmenistan must be liberated.

You know, terrorists can capture my university.... There are 10 armed guards, 2 on each entrance easy target for terrorists. Many students are policemen or soldiers but they generally come to the university without weapons or with small pistols only. Several come to university with M16 but they are scattered...

You're allowed to bring M16 into University?? What kind of crazy place is that?

And what do you do with them during the lectures?

[GePap]

Originally posted by muxec
Stalin would remove all Chechnians to Siberia... In fact there are a lot of uranium mines that require workforce.

He did that actually. They came back.

[muxec]

Do you know that many people in Russian government are enrolled illegal weapon trade with terrorists? Now you know. And they want this war! Who is responsible?

He did that actually. They came back.

He did not remove all. And indeed he would not let them return.

[Eli]

Originally posted by VetLegion


You're allowed to bring M16 into University?? What kind of crazy place is that?

Israel.

[DanS]

Last time they gassed half the hostages in their efforts to "settle" the crisis. So sorry, but I'm not really sharing your assumption that the silence is a deliberate tactic to safeguard lives. I'd rather believe they're clueless.

I think that's totally unfair. They settled the theater crisis as well as could be expected. They saved half the hostages. It's easy for you to sit in your easychair and criticize tactics you know nothing about.